UM+ 44 Numbers Can't Be Reached from North America

[cloud9]

UM have had a number of their access numbers blocked by carriers as the original network in Lichtenstein had also used the same number ranges for premium type content such as chat services etc and the networks are refusing to pay the outpayment to them for this content which shouldnt really be placed on a mobile number, but often is in order to gain a high inbound call revenue without using premium numbers which are often blocked or questions by the end bill payers....

We get asked about 10 times a week to run this type of service on our +4477000 number range as this has a very high polo.

[DRNewcomb]

Originally Posted by cloud9

We get asked about 10 times a week to run this type of service on our +4477000 number range as this has a very high polo.

Polo; as in the candy?

[wcross]

I am still able to call my United Mobile ICQ SIM +423 number using a 7-11 (Canadian) prepaid calling card. However, the rate is $0.56 CDN per minute.

[Stu]

My Truphone UK number has run into blocking and unregistered surcharges by UK providers even though it is a genuine UK mobile number (Oftel approved -- not Jersey or IOM). Their termination rates match UK rates and they offer free forwarding to UK mobiles (at one time including IOM and Jersey numbers -- I am not current on this).

[andy]

Originally Posted by Stu

My Truphone UK number has run into blocking and unregistered surcharges by UK providers even though it is a genuine UK mobile number (Oftel approved -- not Jersey or IOM). Their termination rates match UK rates and they offer free forwarding to UK mobiles (at one time including IOM and Jersey numbers -- I am not current on this).

Apologies to all if this post is a bit too much about only from the UK:

Until about a year ago, there were quite a few callthrough or forwarding operations inhabiting some UK mobile prefixes, one or two of which could even reach for example most European mobiles on weekdays, and all of which would reach India/Pakistan/Bangladesh and similar cost places.

This caused the main networks to regard all non main networks with some suspicion, and exclude many of them from inclusive minute packages, or even also just bar the calls. Truphone's switch to their own prefix may have suffered through happening at around the same time. In the slightly earlier case between Truphone and T-mobile, the latter alleged that as Truphone was not a GSM mobile network, its costs were supposedly less and it shouldn't be entitled to the higher termination fees; it was hearsay that one of their offers was well under a penny a minute.

Ofcom doesn't seem that inclined to mediate or arbitrate these issues. When people spoke to them about the 07744 prefixes that some main networks changed their minds on 2 or 3 times, most were told that what the networks included in bundles was their business, not a regulatory issue. I suppose they have a point, as contracts with across-network inclusive minutes was an invention of the networks themselves, and even now there are still plenty of cases of differential rates on prepaid. From the point of the main networks, one can see that they would be paying out to these small providers, but rarely getting reciprocal revenue from the majority of them.

The disparity continues on to the Isle of Man and Jersey numbers of the various roaming SIMs, which some of the main UK networks include (one added several 07x in March this year), while some exclude and charge even up to something ludicrous like 80 pence a minute


Back to worldwide interest: many cheap calls providers don't make any rate distinctions between any UK 07x numbers (x not 0). Others have a default higher rate for all otherwise undefined prefixes, which may include both IoM and Jersey, small UK operations, and slow reaction to new issues on the main networks. Oddly, Voicestick even publishes varying rates on the same network. But if numbers are unreachable, it may be due to them never being added to a dialplan, or being excluded as too expensive.

[emoci]

In terms of VoIP providers, I've found Future-Nine has the most reliable routing to +44 UM for $0.14 (their site looks a bit iffy, but service is ok)

[bbob]

Originally Posted by emoci

In terms of VoIP providers, I've found Future-Nine has the most reliable routing to +44 UM for $0.14 (their site looks a bit iffy, but service is ok)

Future-Nine uses Betamax / Voicetrading as far as i know. The offer the same 3 routes, budget, normal and premium.
I use voicetrading and have no problem connecting to UM +44
My system is setup on a voip server and all calls are also forwarded to the +44 number using voicetrading. This works day in day out for every call.

[dg7feq]

Originally Posted by bbob

Future-Nine uses Betamax / Voicetrading as far as i know. The offer the same 3 routes, budget, normal and premium.
I use voicetrading and have no problem connecting to UM +44
My system is setup on a voip server and all calls are also forwarded to the +44 number using voicetrading. This works day in day out for every call.

future-nine uses betamax but also several other carriers.
You can see that if you have a look at the trunks used in the call list. As far there are about 15 different trunks that i found.

Chris

[Stu]

I've had problems today with Future-Nine connecting to my UM Jersey SIM today.

[emoci]

Originally Posted by Stu

I've had problems today with Future-Nine connecting to my UM Jersey SIM today.

Try using the premium route (if you aren't already): Dial as 04-44xxxx