Gymsim

[bbob]

can't edit above post anymore, can they change this form 2 minutes to maybe 15 minutes or 30 minutes.

If it uses the iom platform it might be an interesting card. 39,95 including 20 euro credit.

When does the GYM card and the credit expire?

SIM card and credit will become invalid after not using it for nine months. But a call or text will revalidate for another 9 months.

Sounds great but that when you look at their rate table: http://www.gymsim.com/includes/World44_Rates_Table.pdf

·Plan A - 0.09 Euros call connection fee,
8 month Sim/credit non-use Expiry.
·Plan B - No Connection Fee, no Sim/credit expiry:
9.00 Euros Month (individual months added as
required) or 5.00 Euros mth for 12 months pre-paid

The info is a bit different to the one on the website and confusing as plan B has no connection charge but seems to have 5 euro per month cost when paid for 12 month or 9 euro for individual month.

So which one is true, the one from the rate table of from the faq on their website.

although rates are good this misinformation on websites make me to stay away or get a confirmation from customer service first on what is true and what not.

[dg7feq]

Both is correct. The 9 months validity is the +423-card, the 8 months (no monthly fee) or unlimited (5/9Euro per month) is the +44 card.

[bbob]

Originally Posted by dg7feq

Both is correct. The 9 months validity is the +423-card, the 8 months (no monthly fee) or unlimited (5/9Euro per month) is the +44 card.

8 month no monthly fee does have an 9 cent incomming charge like um+, it's 10 cents less but it's still 9 cents and therefore not free roaming anymore.

My point is that there website is not clear about this. The FAQ is as you said valid for the +423 number but not for the +44 number. They should at least update there website to reflect these plan a and b options. I just don't like companies that have an unclear website.

[WooF]

So does this mean I have to have the same amount of outbound calls
to get the free inbound calls?

"The GoGlobal SIM card rates and tariffs assume fair usage of the Services by the customer. This includes, but is not limited to maintaining a ratio of outbound tariff enabled calls to inbound calls of more than 30% on the customers account. There is also a call to SMS policy, i.e. if it is deemed that a customer has bought the GoGlobal Sim for the use of SMS only, GoGlobal reserves the right to suspend service forthwith. In the event of fair usage not being sustained, GoGlobal reserves the right to review the rates and tariffs applied to the customer account or to terminate the Services and in this event, such termination shall be deemed to have been made by the customer. GoGlobal reserves the right to terminate without prior notice for any misuse of the product"

"In order for the customer to receive free inbound calls, the customer must at all times maintain a balance in excess of £2.00"

Better make sure i'm in credit

"GoGlobal reserves the right to disconnect this service at any time, failure to make any outbound calls after receiving 30 inbound will result in the inbound calls being blocked (calling and hanging up within 5 seconds does not constitute a call being made), and a £5.00 fee charged for reconnection . Failure to comply will result in this service being withdrawn and the customer’s contract being terminated with all outstanding costs to be recovered by GoGlobal Sim Ltd"

Do all the wire9/cloud9 brands have the same t&c's, I cant see much on gymsim's website

[bbob]

Originally Posted by WooF

Do all the wire9/cloud9 brands have the same t&c's, I cant see much on gymsim's website

I looks like many of the cloud9 brands have strange terms like the ones you quote and gt-sim, gymsim and maybe some others.

As a user you don't want to look into this kind op crap if you receive more calls than making them or if you have to pay 10 euro per 3 month to keep the card active or other strange terms.

From what I know cards like easyroam also use cloud 9 and they don't have these terms, just a 10 or 12 pund charge to keep the card active after every year. That said easyroam rates are a bit higher sometimes compared to the cards having these terms. So it would just depend on how many calls you make or receive which card is best.

[WooF]

It not easyroam with manx telecom? They have 07924 numbers

cloud9 have 078722

[cloud9]

Originally Posted by WooF

It not easyroam with manx telecom? They have 07924 numbers

cloud9 have 078722

Hi Guys,

Our resellers are free to set their own terms and conditions and rate sheets we dont tell them what to do at all.

Also FYI Cloud9 also have some 07924 numbers.... 079245 and 079246, Manx only have some of them as these are for IoM! Just in case you see some new numbers around in the near future.

Cheers

David

[andy]

Originally Posted by bbob

I looks like many of the cloud9 brands have strange terms like the ones you quote and gt-sim, gymsim and maybe some others.
...

From what I know cards like easyroam also use cloud 9 and ...

No.

It's a bit surprising you've assumed this, and let's hope I can clarify before any embarrassment is caused.

Wire9/Cloud9 is not part of or otherwise associated with Manx Telecom; it is a separate GSM licence holder and network, and therefore a potential commercial rival.

Some of the brands we know are on Manx, and some are on Wire9.

The username cloud9 here is unsurprisingly from the company, and a search of his posts would find some comments on the reseller brands which inhabit the network, including a list.

ekit, GT-sim, all the brands reselling the former Callkey (including Easyroam and Geosim and a few others), and perhaps another, are on Manx and have no connection with Wire9.