GT-SIM what's going on??

[Alfie100]

Thomas,

You mentioned that inbound calls are free within the EU. Unless i am mistaken GT-SIM charge 19 Euro cents for inbound within the EU at per minute billing.

Please correct me if i am wrong but that does not seem very competitive to me.

regards

Alf

Hi,

Originally Posted by Alfie100

Thomas,
You mentioned that inbound calls are free within the EU. Unless i am mistaken GT-SIM charge 19 Euro cents for inbound within the EU at per minute billing.
Please correct me if i am wrong but that does not seem very competitive to me. regards Alf

i am not working or getting paid from GTSIM but please have
a look at the website http://www.gt-sim.de/ then click on pricelist
and then on complete pricelist.

Here it says all inbound calls within the EU are free of charge ..
given the fact that you subscribed to the B2C plan (standard plan) it varies when you are on the B2B or GTPhone plan. (these are cheaper for outbound calls but not for inbound).

i tried with my card roaming on D1,D2,E+,O2 in Germany and only outbound calls had been charged to my GTSIM account at 0,26 € per minute (i called my fixed line at home)

So the info on the webpage is a bit misleading if you are not looking at the detailed pricelist ... i guess GTSIM wants to promote the B2B and GTPhone plan. (here the outbound calls are cheaper but you pay for inbound calls)

i have now GTSIM, UM, UM+, Globalsim

Cheers Thomas

Here it says all inbound calls within the EU are free of charge ..
given the fact that you subscribed to the B2C plan (standard plan) it varies when you are on the B2B or GTPhone plan. (these are cheaper for outbound calls but not for inbound).

... den B2C Plan gibt es nicht mehr, das war die Callkey Grundlage und ist ersetzt worden durch 19/29 Eurocent Fest/Mobil und eingehend 19 Eurocent. Im "Ratecalculator" gibt es den B2C Plan schon gar nicht mehr, wenn bei Dir etwas anderes berechnet wurde dann hängt die Nummer noch im falschen System.

Due to the informations provided by the web page and on my own experiences the new billing units are the following 19/29 Euro cents for fixed/mobile and 19 Euro cents for incoming calls within the EU. There is no more B2C plan available.

Hi,

Originally Posted by JohnDoe

Due to the informations provided by the web page and on my own experiences the new billing units are the following 19/29 Euro cents for fixed/mobile and 19 Euro cents for incoming calls within the EU. There is no more B2C plan available.

Maybe its because i have recieved a Replacement SIM
not a new one ?

My new Number is +447924352784 before i had +44-7624103000

please have a look at my CDR´s :
05-04-2008 14:19 49176xx |<– IN GERMANY 1.00 0.00 0.00
04-04-2008 20:57 |–> OUT GERMANY 49176xx 1.00 0.38 0.38
26-03-2008 20:13 |–> OUT GERMANY 496102xxx 1.00 0.26 0.26

so i was chared 0 for inbound beeing called from O2 +49176xxx
0,38 EUR to reach a mobile number +49176-xxx
0.26 EUR to reach a fixed line number +496102xxx

should i complain ? if i would only use the card for outbound calls
then 0,19 EUR for fixed lines and 0,29 for mobile lines would be
a great deal much better then what you get from UML, UML+, Globalsim

another strange thing if you click to order a new card you can
choose a fixed line number to be forwarded to your SIM card ?
"After you purchased your GT-SIM you are able to add additional phone numbers form a selection of 50 countries around the world Country List "

Strange Strange

Thomas

[bbob]

When I look at the front page of their website it says 0.19 euro to fixed lines and 0.29 euro to mobile numbers.

This rate applies to the gtp plan as the b2b plan has 9.95 monthly rental charge and in the prices part of the site it says no monthly service charge.

thblob as you said you have a replacement card and I asume that this is the old card that does offer no cost for incoming calls.

The site is just not very clear. Even when you have no incoming cost, I could not find a list of countries on the site that have no incoming cost.

On the frontpage it says gprs worldwide 0.10/kb when going to the prices part of the site it says gprs 1 cent per kb, in the pricelist is says 10 kb 0,10 cents. So a little mistake on the frontpage.

When registering it does indeed say that you can have a phone number from 50 different countries. This is a nice option but no where on the website is there any information on this option and on how it works or not.
I can only asume that if you have an incoming number it would cost x euro per month and forwarding the number to your mobile will also not be free of charge (maby this is the 0.19 cent for incoming calls ?), but I can only asume this as their is no information on the site about this option.

Conclusion is that gt-sim at the moment is not a very clear site, there are 3 pricing structures but when buying a card I don't know which one will apply.
When there is free incoming there is no countrylist. The rate calculater only shows the b2b and gtp charges, both have no free incoming.

When buying a card I would really want to know what I am buying and what charges will be applied when calling, this is not very clear and really confusing at gt-sim. I hope they will update their site to give some more info.

[MrEd]

Check for any connection charges or per minute billing. This is often where "cheap" headline rates get increased.

Maybe its because i have recieved a Replacement SIM
not a new one ?

I don´t think so, I recived also a replacement SIM.

My new Number is +4479243xxxxx before i had +44-76241xxxxxx

Please delete your number

please have a look at my CDR´s :
05-04-2008 14:19 49176xx |<– IN GERMANY 1.00 0.00 0.00
04-04-2008 20:57 |–> OUT GERMANY 49176xx 1.00 0.38 0.38
26-03-2008 20:13 |–> OUT GERMANY 496102xxx 1.00 0.26 0.26

so i was chared 0 for inbound beeing called from O2 +49176xxx
0,38 EUR to reach a mobile number +49176-xxx
0.26 EUR to reach a fixed line number +496102xxx

I think they have still two billing systems running, because this is the Callkey tariff.

should i complain ? if i would only use the card for outbound calls
then 0,19 EUR for fixed lines and 0,29 for mobile lines would be
a great deal much better then what you get from UML, UML+, Globalsim

You must know if your paying now more or less ... ?!
If it would be possible, I would keep the old Callkey tariff, because it´s more favourable then the incoming 19 Euro cent.

another strange thing if you click to order a new card you can
choose a fixed line number to be forwarded to your SIM card ?
"After you purchased your GT-SIM you are able to add additional phone numbers form a selection of 50 countries around the world Country List "

Why strange? They offer the same like yackiemobile.com, if you choose one of the DID numbers then incoming calls will be forwarded charge free to your +447924.... number. Good service if it works.