Bluefire Wireless - a Manx SIM in transition?

[Murch]

Originally Posted by andy

Of course you are interested in finding ways to save money in the places you travel to, and will want to ask for advice about that, but there is no need to suggest that other people don't understand the real purpose of this thread, which until now was about a hitherto unknown brand, and what could be found out about it.

It was not my intention to offend anybody. It just did not seem a constructive comment so I explained my personal idea. If I should have misunderstood the character and purpose of this forum I deeply apologise.

[Murch]

Hope you all had wonderful Christmas and a good start into 2008!

It took a while but it reached by Registered Mail from UK. Nice packing and professional design. Insert the SIM and go. It works so far. Mid/end of January I will have the opportunity to test it in India and UAE.
Results will be posted as soon as possible.

[alexmore]

Originally Posted by Murch

Hope you all had wonderful Christmas and a good start into 2008!

It took a while but it reached by Registered Mail from UK. Nice packing and professional design. Insert the SIM and go. It works so far. Mid/end of January I will have the opportunity to test it in India and UAE.
Results will be posted as soon as possible.

Ciao Murch,
what +447xxx use bluefire sim?
Alex

[hrgajek]

Hello from Germany,

if the Bluefire SIM works well, some of us would like to have some details, e.g. like the Prefix for this card +44 7xxx x for example.

Most of us had bad experience with the gone "callkey" IoM card which disappeared from one to the next day. (Was sold under "Globalsim", "GT-SIM" and much much other brands)

Somebody here suggested the german-based vistream SIM-Cards.
vistream (powered by Materna) is a virtual network operator using the German e-plus Network.
Prefix is +49-1570-xxxxxxx

vistream Customers report about strange problems with Callback-Roaming in various foreign countries. It may work, but it may not work, too. German speaking/understanding readers could have a look at www.telefon-treff.de for more details.

vistream uses a Dual IMSI SIM-Card with SAT-Callback, which is a little bit more sophisticated than the known SIM-cards from IoM, UM or other Companies. So should have a newer SAT-compatible phone (like Nokia 6310i or later)

As a addendum or backup to the Bluefire Card you should give United-Mobile a try:

UM offers two tariffs/cards:

UM423 (based in Liechtenstein) includes a lot of countries like China (PRC) where incoming calls are free. You can get one in a Swiss Postal-Office or mobilezone or from www.callfrom.de in Germany (not listed on this page)
Disadvantage can be the prefix +423-663 which is billed premium-rate in some countries.

UM+ (based on Isle of Jersey) has less countries with free incoming, but offers some countries, the UM423 does not and vice versa.
UM+ SIM-Card is available from www.united-mobile.com

There are some threads in this forum with more details with United-Mobile.

Hope this will help you.

[andy]

Originally Posted by hrgajek

if the Bluefire SIM works well, some of us would like to have some details, e.g. like the Prefix for this card +44 7xxx x for example.

Originally Posted by alexmore

Ciao Murch,
what +447xxx use bluefire sim?
Alex

see above:

Originally Posted by andy

I think that these SIMs will have the Wire9 prefix +4478722, ...

[Murch]

Andy is absolutely right.
The number is +447872....

When dialing you have to add # at the end, example: +4937512345#
After a few seconds you receive a call and you are being connected to the desired number.
(Dis)advantage: the number is not shown when you dial (at least while calling from Germany)

SMS is trouble free. Incoming calls work well and the line quality seems to be as good as with any other card.

Hope you all have a nice Saturday evening...
I'm hosted by our couch with a nice flu and hope to get well before monday when work will have me back.

[bbob]

Originally Posted by hrgajek

Most of us had bad experience with the gone "callkey" IoM card which disappeared from one to the next day. (Was sold under "Globalsim", "GT-SIM" and much much other brands)

Somebody here suggested the german-based vistream SIM-Cards.
vistream (powered by Materna) is a virtual network operator using the German e-plus Network.
Prefix is +49-1570-xxxxxxx

vistream Customers report about strange problems with Callback-Roaming in various foreign countries. It may work, but it may not work, too. German speaking/understanding readers could have a look at www.telefon-treff.de for more details.

vistream uses a Dual IMSI SIM-Card with SAT-Callback, which is a little bit more sophisticated than the known SIM-cards from IoM, UM or other Companies. So should have a newer SAT-compatible phone (like Nokia 6310i or later)

Well callkey will be back, that is what the expert here on the forum says. So don't say there gone they will be back

The same expert attacked me saying I said dual sim was a home brew solutions (I used other words) It's funny that I read now that there are indeed problems with these dual sim card. But agian there is 1 expert here that knows everything so don't speak bad

[Effendi]

Originally Posted by bbob

Well callkey will be back, that is what the expert here on the forum says. So don't say there gone they will be back

The same expert attacked me saying I said dual sim was a home brew solutions (I used other words) It's funny that I read now that there are indeed problems with these dual sim card. But agian there is 1 expert here that knows everything so don't speak bad

If you think to go on in this way you have good chances to be the first ever user banned on this forum. If you have problems with Andy, and it seems you have, there exist Private Messages, so please use them (or any other private communication service). I'm not tolerating other stupid personal-flames between the two of you on the public forum, so please stop here.

[bbob]

Originally Posted by Effendi

If you think to go on in this way you have good chances to be the first ever user banned on this forum. If you have problems with Andy, and it seems you have, there exist Private Messages, so please use them (or any other private communication service). I'm not tolerating other stupid personal-flames between the two of you on the public forum, so please stop here.

Understood, looks like there are 2 user going to be banned, that is if everyone gets treated the same way

[andy]

Originally Posted by hrgajek

vistream Customers report about strange problems with Callback-Roaming in various foreign countries. It may work, but it may not work, too. German speaking/understanding readers could have a look at www.telefon-treff.de for more details.

I see that the solomo thread has 1500+ posts, so may take some time to read

Are the difficulties in certain countries constant or variable, and has there been discussion of whether or how this might depend on the roaming agreements of what appears to be the other country ID on the SIM card, or maybe added by Materna/vistream themselves?

Or perhaps the problems are that the SIM never registers on the network? I had this to begin with, until Sunsim told me that on some phones the PIN should be prefixed with a 1 or 2: 1xxxx in Germany; 2xxxx roaming. Since then I've also found a SIM menu setting that reboots into the other mode.