Bluefire Wireless - a Manx SIM in transition?

[andy]

Originally Posted by Murch

Unless you can confirm and guarantee which provider is the best for that region let us just try and exchange information. I think this is the real purpose of this thread.
If you don't understand this whole thread - why bother? We do.

There are plenty of providers of SIMs intended for cheap global roaming, and already plenty of discussion already on here about them.

Of course you are interested in finding ways to save money in the places you travel to, and will want to ask for advice about that, but there is no need to suggest that other people don't understand the real purpose of this thread, which until now was about a hitherto unknown brand, and what could be found out about it.

Like several of the resellers of some IoM SIMs, it doesn't seem to have updated all of its webpages at the same time, and it is common on others to find new remarks about replacement SIM cards, but the instructions tariffs and FAQs seem to be describing the old one. Clues to the old one will be 154 for Customer Services, 102... for call forwarding, 103 to cancel it, and 187 for balance query.

It may be that their newer SIMs will also have 154 for CS, but despite that the Cloud9 network will probably have +4479245 or ~6 numbers in the Isle of Man itself, I think that these SIMs will have the Wire9 prefix +4478722, which adds to the suggestion that their Network Guide on the website is not new. Well, of course you should get newer instructions when the product arrives.

While old information is still there though, I would be slightly hesitant to make a lot of assumptions about the new one, including tariffs. Wire9 claim to have more roaming agreements than the brands resident on Manx Telecom, and it will be interesting to find out more about that, but I'll be quite surprised if you have free incoming calls in India for example.

[Murch]

Originally Posted by andy

Well, of course you should get newer instructions when the product arrives.

While old information is still there though, I would be slightly hesitant to make a lot of assumptions about the new one, including tariffs. Wire9 claim to have more roaming agreements than the brands resident on Manx Telecom, and it will be interesting to find out more about that, but I'll be quite surprised if you have free incoming calls in India for example.

At least the bookkeeping seems to work efficiently. The payment has just appeared on my credit card. I hope the card will arrive by DHL in the next days. Concerning the roaming facilities: in January I will be in Kuwait, UAE and India. By January 25 I should be able to summarize a bit the first tests.

[Murch]

Originally Posted by andy

Of course you are interested in finding ways to save money in the places you travel to, and will want to ask for advice about that, but there is no need to suggest that other people don't understand the real purpose of this thread, which until now was about a hitherto unknown brand, and what could be found out about it.

It was not my intention to offend anybody. It just did not seem a constructive comment so I explained my personal idea. If I should have misunderstood the character and purpose of this forum I deeply apologise.

[Murch]

Hope you all had wonderful Christmas and a good start into 2008!

It took a while but it reached by Registered Mail from UK. Nice packing and professional design. Insert the SIM and go. It works so far. Mid/end of January I will have the opportunity to test it in India and UAE.
Results will be posted as soon as possible.

[alexmore]

Originally Posted by Murch

Hope you all had wonderful Christmas and a good start into 2008!

It took a while but it reached by Registered Mail from UK. Nice packing and professional design. Insert the SIM and go. It works so far. Mid/end of January I will have the opportunity to test it in India and UAE.
Results will be posted as soon as possible.

Ciao Murch,
what +447xxx use bluefire sim?
Alex

[hrgajek]

Hello from Germany,

if the Bluefire SIM works well, some of us would like to have some details, e.g. like the Prefix for this card +44 7xxx x for example.

Most of us had bad experience with the gone "callkey" IoM card which disappeared from one to the next day. (Was sold under "Globalsim", "GT-SIM" and much much other brands)

Somebody here suggested the german-based vistream SIM-Cards.
vistream (powered by Materna) is a virtual network operator using the German e-plus Network.
Prefix is +49-1570-xxxxxxx

vistream Customers report about strange problems with Callback-Roaming in various foreign countries. It may work, but it may not work, too. German speaking/understanding readers could have a look at www.telefon-treff.de for more details.

vistream uses a Dual IMSI SIM-Card with SAT-Callback, which is a little bit more sophisticated than the known SIM-cards from IoM, UM or other Companies. So should have a newer SAT-compatible phone (like Nokia 6310i or later)

As a addendum or backup to the Bluefire Card you should give United-Mobile a try:

UM offers two tariffs/cards:

UM423 (based in Liechtenstein) includes a lot of countries like China (PRC) where incoming calls are free. You can get one in a Swiss Postal-Office or mobilezone or from www.callfrom.de in Germany (not listed on this page)
Disadvantage can be the prefix +423-663 which is billed premium-rate in some countries.

UM+ (based on Isle of Jersey) has less countries with free incoming, but offers some countries, the UM423 does not and vice versa.
UM+ SIM-Card is available from www.united-mobile.com

There are some threads in this forum with more details with United-Mobile.

Hope this will help you.

[andy]

Originally Posted by hrgajek

if the Bluefire SIM works well, some of us would like to have some details, e.g. like the Prefix for this card +44 7xxx x for example.

Originally Posted by alexmore

Ciao Murch,
what +447xxx use bluefire sim?
Alex

see above:

Originally Posted by andy

I think that these SIMs will have the Wire9 prefix +4478722, ...

[Murch]

Andy is absolutely right.
The number is +447872....

When dialing you have to add # at the end, example: +4937512345#
After a few seconds you receive a call and you are being connected to the desired number.
(Dis)advantage: the number is not shown when you dial (at least while calling from Germany)

SMS is trouble free. Incoming calls work well and the line quality seems to be as good as with any other card.

Hope you all have a nice Saturday evening...
I'm hosted by our couch with a nice flu and hope to get well before monday when work will have me back.

[bbob]

Originally Posted by hrgajek

Most of us had bad experience with the gone "callkey" IoM card which disappeared from one to the next day. (Was sold under "Globalsim", "GT-SIM" and much much other brands)

Somebody here suggested the german-based vistream SIM-Cards.
vistream (powered by Materna) is a virtual network operator using the German e-plus Network.
Prefix is +49-1570-xxxxxxx

vistream Customers report about strange problems with Callback-Roaming in various foreign countries. It may work, but it may not work, too. German speaking/understanding readers could have a look at www.telefon-treff.de for more details.

vistream uses a Dual IMSI SIM-Card with SAT-Callback, which is a little bit more sophisticated than the known SIM-cards from IoM, UM or other Companies. So should have a newer SAT-compatible phone (like Nokia 6310i or later)

Well callkey will be back, that is what the expert here on the forum says. So don't say there gone they will be back

The same expert attacked me saying I said dual sim was a home brew solutions (I used other words) It's funny that I read now that there are indeed problems with these dual sim card. But agian there is 1 expert here that knows everything so don't speak bad

[Effendi]

Originally Posted by bbob

Well callkey will be back, that is what the expert here on the forum says. So don't say there gone they will be back

The same expert attacked me saying I said dual sim was a home brew solutions (I used other words) It's funny that I read now that there are indeed problems with these dual sim card. But agian there is 1 expert here that knows everything so don't speak bad

If you think to go on in this way you have good chances to be the first ever user banned on this forum. If you have problems with Andy, and it seems you have, there exist Private Messages, so please use them (or any other private communication service). I'm not tolerating other stupid personal-flames between the two of you on the public forum, so please stop here.