yackie mobile review

[YackieMobile]

Originally Posted by andy

Cheaper providers are named in this thread, who have been found by people here to be reliable for years.

My suspicion is that the reason could easily be more prosaic, that the phone number series of 09 Mobile is 2 digits longer than all other numbers from Iceland, and also begins with a different number 3 that isn't used elsewhere in the country.

Thus perhaps some providers do not have it defined in their dialplans, just as for +447n with n = 6 or less, +446 doesn't exist, +44844 and +44871 excluded by many, +44870 by some, and maybe originally +423 & 9 digits of course

Perhaps this idea isn't so fanciful, as I found that a +49 & 11-digit German mobile phone was impossible to reach from certain providers for a while

Hi Andy,

Your logic makes sense, however the real reason is as I previously specified. The +3543 series has been around for a long time now and the issue is with voip carriers not breaking out certain higher rate series. It would be commercially impossible to offer free incoming on a normal rate Iceland Mobile.

There are other reasons for the +4484x and +4487x, those are "national" rate (in many cases revenue sharing numbers) that aren't really designed for access outside the UK ( most of the ranges at least).

If you really need to make calls to +354380 via voip, there are indeed carriers that will do the Iceland +354380 series, check out i.e. www.voipjet.com, but the rates are €0.5 - €0.6.

Anyone who has worked with bundled destinations and rate tables understands the scenario first hand.

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by yackietech

But I would like to clarify - the DID numbers are not provided for revenue purposes, the +354 numbers are actually preferred, but because of concerns with voip access etc. we advertise the DID more than we would otherwise do. Our DIDs do NOT forward to any +354380 Iceland number (that's not the way roaming mobile networks work)

The DID numbers are provided as a value added service for you, our customers.
They also have very good access from almost any voip carrier, so if reachability is an issue, then the DIDs solve that completely.

Hmm, I thought that the main idea behind using DID numbers is caused by the fact that Yackie is a US-based company and US customers want to be reachable on US numbers instead of foreign ones....

[YackieMobile]

Originally Posted by Przemolog

Hmm, I thought that the main idea behind using DID numbers is caused by the fact that Yackie is a US-based company and US customers want to be reachable on US numbers instead of foreign ones....

NOPE

Our business model was always based on the possibility for the user to have a local number attached to his sim card, we never trust to the incoming free as a valuable option for this product, we have it, but we have 90 % of our incoming call made on the DID

[andy]

Originally Posted by yackietech

Anyone who has worked with bundled destinations and rate tables understands the scenario first hand.

Well, it's a pity that you think that nobody else does, but perhaps in future you'll refrain from veiled criticism of other companies' rates

Originally Posted by yackietech

You will not be able to find a legitimate, cheap way ...

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by YackieMobile

NOPE

Our business model was always based on the possibility for the user to have a local number attached to his sim card, we never trust to the incoming free as a valuable option for this product, we have it, but we have 90 % of our incoming call made on the DID

I think it's a valuable option even because the simple fact that you may have the same number for SMS and voice calls. As to 90% of incoming calls via DIDs - OK, I believe you. But, how many %% of your customers are from US/Canada and how many from Europe or other calling-party-pays areas? From what I have read on the forum so far, the Americans need local DIDs much more than the Europeans and that was motivation for my suppositions...

[YackieMobile]

Hum... maybe Przemolog, but we offer many European countries too, and all of our customers have selected their own countries as DID when available

Maybe they give the did to their friend or family ( who can make call locally so free ) and they will pay 0,29 $, and not oblige the caller to pay 0,6$ to.....)

This is the point, let the caller pay 0,6 $ or more for have his incoming free, or letting them use a DID and have to pay 0,29 .....

[YackieMobile]

Originally Posted by andy

Well, it's a pity that you think that nobody else does, but perhaps in future you'll refrain from veiled criticism of other companies' rates

Andy, VOIP companies are in this business to make money, any such company who does not break out higher rates, but absorbs the difference is of course free to do so, no criticism there, but the reality is that many/most of these carriers are not willing to absorb the difference, and simply don't terminate to higher rate series, be it Iceland +354380 or any other higher rate series. Some have done so (probably unwittingly) but usually end up not continuing to do so when their billing systems alert them, hence no more access.

There is no criticism of these companies here, as it makes perfect sense according to their business model. Seeing as there are other voip carriers who will terminate to +354380 and the DID option is available, it shouldn't pose major problems (unless what you are looking for is your own cheap callback solution through the incoming numbers).

[andy]

Originally Posted by YackieMobile

Maybe they give the did to their friend or family ( who can make call locally so free ) and they will pay 0,29 $, and not oblige the caller to pay 0,6$ to.....)

This is the point, let the caller pay 0,6 $ or more for have his incoming free, or letting them use a DID and have to pay 0,29 .....

Perhaps they still have a little more choice than that

If someone from the UK uses one of 4 or perhaps soon up to 8 roaming SIMs with +447 numbers, then call rates from an ordinary BT landline are cheaper than that, 8 to 13 pence a minute depending on tariff. Or possibly 20 pence per call on some business landline contracts (I haven't yet checked if this can apply to these).

And there are cheap calls providers here from 6 pence a minute, 3p weekends, occasional cheaper offers like 1p next week. Or a forwarded landline DID can be set up for 4 or 5 pence a minute. Or just forward the home landline at tariffs already mentioned

And anyone from other countries can do several of those things too. A German would probably get Sunsim or Solomo. And plenty of countries have cheap ways to reach their own and other mobiles.

Apparently someone from South Africa could call a UK mobile direct from a Telkom landline for the equivalent of 20 eurocents a minute. Mobile subscribers in Hong Kong or Thailand can manage to reach UK mobiles for similar rates.

12 cheap call providers in the UK advertise rates of 8 to 13 pence a minute for Iceland mobiles, though I haven't tried any out.

If rates are heading higher for Iceland mobiles, or they will be unobtainable from most of these providers, as you and your colleague keep emphasising, despite posts in this thread that call rates under 20 cents still seem to be available and work, then perhaps people will remember what happened with Liechtenstein mobile rates and remain a little cagey

[prion]

Originally Posted by andy

If rates are heading higher for Iceland mobiles, or they will be unobtainable from most of these providers, as you and your colleague keep emphasising, despite posts in this thread that call rates under 20 cents still seem to be available and work, then perhaps people will remember what happened with Liechtenstein mobile rates and remain a little cagey

I have tried in the past a few of the 0871 callthrough numbers to reach 09 mobiles and was unable to do so.
I do not know what will happen if someone tries it now.

[andy]

That was about the same as experience with FL mobiles. Two and a half years ago, three providers all eventually came back and told me that the cheapest carrier was not reliable enough and there was a big step in tariff to the next one.

But I still think it's potentially also a issue of how dialplans define or mask valid and invalid numbers. How many providers can ring a UK +443 landline yet? Not three I tried about 6 weeks ago.