yackie mobile review

[amroe]

Originally Posted by YackieMobile

OK was only assigned to the SIP

i just move it to the SIM

can you try ?

What do you mean assigned to the Sip ??? +354 or the DID number i switch it without success aim even call this number through Skype +354 without success .

i had call the local DID number it ring the cell phone ( sim ) , but i cant her it ring in the calling phone ( my Israeli cell phone )

[prion]

Originally Posted by amroe

What do you mean assigned to the Sip ??? +354 or the DID number i switch it without success aim even call this number through Skype +354 without success .

i had call the local DID number it ring the cell phone ( sim ) , but i cant her it ring in the calling phone ( my Israeli cell phone )

All betamax clones do not connect always to +354380 numbers. And you are also charged sometimes for the call despite it not being connected! This is due to the fact that some voip providers use cheap routing.


Try another voip provider. Or normal landlines.

[bbob]

I can confirm this. I even use voicetrading to wholesale/business solution of betamax. They offer so called premium route and I have the same problem, it does ring but the cell phone does not ring.
Or I get a message, caller is busy which is false.

When using my regular dutch mobile, I call and it does ring. so this does seem to be a betamax problem. I have complained allready but no response yet.

[prion]

Originally Posted by bbob

I can confirm this. I even use voicetrading to wholesale/business solution of betamax. They offer so called premium route and I have the same problem, it does ring but the cell phone does not ring.
Or I get a message, caller is busy which is false.

When using my regular dutch mobile, I call and it does ring. so this does seem to be a betamax problem. I have complained allready but no response yet.

Same for me here. I knew it from the past when I tried to ring a 09 number and had no luck.

Do not expect much from betamax. their cs is one of the worst I have seen. I am not sure about voicetrading though.

[GSM_student]

Sorry, but for me the things is a little clear and different.
Voip is one thing that exist in our lifes. BETAMAX is a really great group and a real good solution, Skype too. So Yackie must work to fix those problems if they want to be a solution in the market.
It looks that they push to use their forwarder numbers.
But at the other side they are tring to adjust the system (I hope). But the website, like a friend of us told here, not give the possibilite to change the range of the dates to check the callings, itt make we think about it. Is it true?

Well if they are working hard to solve it, the website will be easy and the BETAMAX/Skype problems they can discover too. If they not discover, they will be other callkey in a near future.

Some one has problems to conect their direct number, by regular landlines?

I will wait to buy those solutions. Many trouble to put my money now.

[dg7feq]

Originally Posted by GSM_student

Sorry, but for me the things is a little clear and different.
Voip is one thing that exist in our lifes. BETAMAX is a really great group and a real good solution, Skype too. So Yackie must work to fix those problems if they want to be a solution in the market.
It looks that they push to use their forwarder numbers.
But at the other side they are tring to adjust the system (I hope). But the website, like a friend of us told here, not give the possibilite to change the range of the dates to check the callings, itt make we think about it. Is it true?

Well if they are working hard to solve it, the website will be easy and the BETAMAX/Skype problems they can discover too. If they not discover, they will be other callkey in a near future.

Some one has problems to conect their direct number, by regular landlines?

I will wait to buy those solutions. Many trouble to put my money now.

You have to look at it a bit more differentiated.

Phone companies want to offer cheap rates to be competetive. In case of Iceland cellphones there is one expensive range of numbers (+354-380...) between some other normal rated.

Now there are a few choices:
1) make calls to all iceland mobiles expensive
2) dont connect to the expensive range
3) split iceland mobile A and iceland mobile B

As 3) is not possible for most providers who only differ between landline and mobile they will most propably choose 2).

Situation in germany:
calls to +354-380 work fine from T-Com and Arcor landlines. No known call-by-call-Provider connects (like 10-10 numbers in the US).
All cellphone providers connect - but they charge a fortune for international calls anyway so they dont care.
VoIP works but very patchy (Sipgate.de, simply-connect.de).

Chris

[bbob]

gsm-student. read the thread. Yackies business mobel is not made so that you can call the iceland number. They want to make money by you calling their did number which forwards to their iceland number.
The forwarding cost of yackie $0.29 are not the cheapest but i would not say it is very expensive.

Also betamax does not care if they can't connect, it's just a very very small part of their business and they don't care if you can't call iceland mobiel.

If you do want to use betamax get a united-mobile +44 number which you can call at low rates using betamax.

[YackieMobile]

Originally Posted by bbob

gsm-student. read the thread. Yackies business mobel is not made so that you can call the iceland number. They want to make money by you calling their did number which forwards to their iceland number.

As others have pointed out, betamax does not (as far as I know) breakout Iceland mobile into separate series, for this reason they won't terminate to any Iceland mobile that costs more than average. This is the same case for many other voip providers. You can easily find voip providers that do terminate to Yackie +354380 such as voipjet etc, as the break out the series, but of course the call then costs €0.5 to €0.6 per minute after it's way through all the carriers along the way. You will not be able to find a legitimate, cheap way to access the +354380 numbers as they are designed for free incoming, so caller pays and the rates on them are higher than normal. Any provider that does terminate cheaply to these numbers is losing money (or some carrier along the way).

But I would like to clarify - the DID numbers are not provided for revenue purposes, the +354 numbers are actually preferred, but because of concerns with voip access etc. we advertise the DID more than we would otherwise do. Our DIDs do NOT forward to any +354380 Iceland number (that's not the way roaming mobile networks work)

The DID numbers are provided as a value added service for you, our customers.
They also have very good access from almost any voip carrier, so if reachability is an issue, then the DIDs solve that completely.

[Bossman]

I agree. It's totally impossible to find a cheap route (if you can find one that connects) to those +354380 iceland mobiles. At least from the US. So the DID does eliminate that problem.

For example voicestick that most of us here use or used to use charge $0.61 (They now charge $0.81 to Liechenstein mobiles BTW)

Les.net charges $0.89.

[andy]

Originally Posted by yackietech

You will not be able to find a legitimate, cheap way to access the +354380 numbers as ...

Cheaper providers are named in this thread, who have been found by people here to be reliable for years.

My suspicion is that the reason could easily be more prosaic, that the phone number series of 09 Mobile is 2 digits longer than all other numbers from Iceland, and also begins with a different number 3 that isn't used elsewhere in the country.

Thus perhaps some providers do not have it defined in their dialplans, just as for +447n with n = 6 or less, +446 doesn't exist, +44844 and +44871 excluded by many, +44870 by some, and maybe originally +423 & 9 digits of course

Perhaps this idea isn't so fanciful, as I found that a +49 & 11-digit German mobile phone was impossible to reach from certain providers for a while