global roaming - how long stays active

kitesurfer · **global roaming - how long stays active -** 18-06-2009, 04:44

hi - i'm a newbie at this so i apologize if this is a newbie question. i'm taking a year and traveling around the world. i'm going to take an unlocked phone with me and probably swap in some local sim cards depending on how long i'm in one place. but, partially to placate the parents, i'm also going to take along one or two global sims (primarily for use in case of emergency and/or for finding the first place to stay in a country). i think i'm getting a phone over amazon which means that it comes free with a mobal sim card (which will be my emergency one - since reviews make it sound like the more reliable, although more expensive option). and i was thinking about maybe picking up a global roaming sim card as my first call in country/cheaper back-up option.

so - question time - does anyone know how long the global roaming card stays active? do you have to top it off or use it within a certain amount of time to not lose your credit and/or make the card inactive?

thanks!

bylo · 18-06-2009, 13:38

Mobal is by far the most reliable and probably works in more countries than any other global SIM. While it is relatively expensive, it's probably cheaper to use it for emergencies and until you can find a local, country-specific SIM than to get more global SIMs. Apart from the added cost of global SIMs, look at the threads in this forum that discuss all the problems people have experienced with the likes of United Mobile, Yackie, etc. You will not only have to pay up-front for each SIM but also for airtime for each SIM, then have to keep them active and recharged. With Mobal you pay only if/when you use the SIM and it's charged directly to a credit card. That's much more convenient. Also it will be much easier for your family and friends to reach you because they'll only need to know the single Mobal phone number.

FBlack_111 · 18-06-2009, 15:24

I don't know if you have Att as your U.S. carrier.

Mobal rates are much more expensive than what ATT and T-Mobile charge. Check their calling rates back to the US against ATT. Not even close. Especially in some places like Turkey, Egypt, Israel, etc. Mobal was OK a few years ago, but ATT and T-Mobile have dropped rates substantially. If you have a Verizon phone they will lend you a world phone and have similar rates as ATT. As an example:

Mobal is $1.50 vs. ATT 99 cents from Italy
Mobal is $2.95 vs. ATT $1.99 cents from Turkey
Mobal is $1.95 vs. ATT 99 cents from Spain
Mobal is $7,95 vs. ATT $3.99 cents from Russia
Mobal is $3.95 vs. ATT 1.99 cents from Israel
Mobal is $3.95 vs. ATT $1.99 cents from Argentina

http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/in...al-roaming.jsp ATT rates

International SIM Card Mobal Rates

But if you get the SIM for free with the phone, I suppose it's fine as a backup.

Also, check the Telestial web site. They have some nice special deals on Ekit's Passport Sim's and phones.

petkow · 18-06-2009, 16:41

Where are you heading to first? If it's somewhere in Europe (e.g. UK) you'll probably be better off than rip-off Mobal by picking up a local prepaid SIM, using it there and even going on to roam with that. Local SIM's will be stable in terms of reliability as well, and will have plenty of roaming agreements drawn up.

Stu · 18-06-2009, 17:18

Mobal uses the 02 network which is the gold standard in roaming, but you will be paying with "gold." If your first stop on your trip is the UK, I'd get a Vodafone SIM. You'll get free incoming throughout Western Europe this summer and all calls to the UK from a Voda affiliate will be local calls. (Your phone will default to Vodafone's European network). I'd get a cheap US calling card with European dial-in numbers and use it. You'll probably be able to keep your SIM swapping to a minimum.

petkow · 18-06-2009, 17:28

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Originally Posted by Stu

If your first stop on your trip is the UK, I'd get a Vodafone SIM.

Excellent advice! Or even if it isn't your first stop I'd try to get one of these anyhow.

Doesn't Mobal offer you a UK number in any case? I recall that with Mobal only UK is free incoming, and it even gets quite steep for incoming elswhere in Europe. This is not the same of any European SIM who are bound by EU caps.

kitesurfer · 18-06-2009, 19:05

hey - thanks for all the replies. i'm starting my trip in ecuador, then on to central america, southeast asia, and ending up around the mediteranean (greece,turkey, and europe), so it doesn't really make sense to start with vodafone.

i have verizon and while they will get me an international phone, it will have an internal sim which means that i can't swap in a local sim card so would have to carry two phones. also, to get their international plan, i have to keep a domestic plan which will cost me at least $20/month (which is a decent amount when you're not even going to be in the US). Instead, i'm going to switch my verizon plan to prepaid, which works out much cheaper since i'm going to be out of the country for much of the year.

the mobal really is just going to be in case of emergencies (makes my parents happier since i'm female traveling alone and kitesurfing so there is potential for injuries). i think i'll either swap in local sims or not use my cell much for normal calling. i was thinking about whether it made sense to get a Global Roaming (aka celtrek or something similar) sim card as well for more frequent use than the mobal since the mobal is so expensive per minute. But, that depends on how long the Global Roaming sim card stays active - if I have to top it off every 30 days to keep it active, its too expensive and not worth it. If i only have to top it off every year to keep it active, then its not a bad second back-up.

powerlifter · 18-06-2009, 21:26

Did you think about skype? If you are have a computer or go to an internet cafe you can talk to the parents for very little money. You can get a subscription, and get something like 10,000 minutes a month. Or you can pay as you go your choice. If your parents download skype to their computer the call is free if you call their computer. You can call your home number or a cell phone again the options are endless. If I am in a country for a week or more I get a local sim card. If you use an international sim no one will want to call you as they have to pay for the call as well as you. You will meet friends, and you will want to be able to contact them. Look at skype as they have a lot of ways to stay in touch. Just something to think about.

andy · 18-06-2009, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu

If your first stop on your trip is the UK, I'd get a Vodafone SIM. You'll get free incoming throughout Western Europe this summer and all calls to the UK from a Voda affiliate will be local calls.

In fact it seems that in some countries there are several or even all the local networks available on Passport now.

kitesurfer · 18-06-2009, 22:06

sorry - i should have clarified. i'm definitely going to do skype as my primary means of talking with family and friends back home. free is a very appealing price

the cell phone will be used for 1) emergencies (i.e. i'm on a beach in ecuador and got lofted kiteboarding and slammed into a tree so am figuring out where/how to get somewhere to fix a broken bone) and 2) occasionally for setting up a hostel/hotel reservation when i first get into a country.

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kitesurfer (Offline) Junior Member Newbie Posts: 3 Join Date: 18 Jun 2009 Country:	global roaming - how long stays active - 18-06-2009, 04:44 hi - i'm a newbie at this so i apologize if this is a newbie question. i'm taking a year and traveling around the world. i'm going to take an unlocked phone with me and probably swap in some local sim cards depending on how long i'm in one place. but, partially to placate the parents, i'm also going to take along one or two global sims (primarily for use in case of emergency and/or for finding the first place to stay in a country). i think i'm getting a phone over amazon which means that it comes free with a mobal sim card (which will be my emergency one - since reviews make it sound like the more reliable, although more expensive option). and i was thinking about maybe picking up a global roaming sim card as my first call in country/cheaper back-up option. so - question time - does anyone know how long the global roaming card stays active? do you have to top it off or use it within a certain amount of time to not lose your credit and/or make the card inactive? thanks!

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bylo (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 204 Join Date: 03 Oct 2007 Country:	18-06-2009, 13:38 Mobal is by far the most reliable and probably works in more countries than any other global SIM. While it is relatively expensive, it's probably cheaper to use it for emergencies and until you can find a local, country-specific SIM than to get more global SIMs. Apart from the added cost of global SIMs, look at the threads in this forum that discuss all the problems people have experienced with the likes of United Mobile, Yackie, etc. You will not only have to pay up-front for each SIM but also for airtime for each SIM, then have to keep them active and recharged. With Mobal you pay only if/when you use the SIM and it's charged directly to a credit card. That's much more convenient. Also it will be much easier for your family and friends to reach you because they'll only need to know the single Mobal phone number. Phones: OnePlus 5 • Nexus 5 SIMs: CA Fido/Fongo • AT A1-B.free • Google Fi R.I.P.: UM • UM+

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FBlack_111 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 171 Join Date: 27 Feb 2008 Country:	18-06-2009, 15:24 I don't know if you have Att as your U.S. carrier. Mobal rates are much more expensive than what ATT and T-Mobile charge. Check their calling rates back to the US against ATT. Not even close. Especially in some places like Turkey, Egypt, Israel, etc. Mobal was OK a few years ago, but ATT and T-Mobile have dropped rates substantially. If you have a Verizon phone they will lend you a world phone and have similar rates as ATT. As an example: Mobal is $1.50 vs. ATT 99 cents from Italy Mobal is $2.95 vs. ATT $1.99 cents from Turkey Mobal is $1.95 vs. ATT 99 cents from Spain Mobal is $7,95 vs. ATT $3.99 cents from Russia Mobal is $3.95 vs. ATT 1.99 cents from Israel Mobal is $3.95 vs. ATT $1.99 cents from Argentina http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/in...al-roaming.jsp ATT rates International SIM Card Mobal Rates But if you get the SIM for free with the phone, I suppose it's fine as a backup. Also, check the Telestial web site. They have some nice special deals on Ekit's Passport Sim's and phones.

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petkow (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 696 Join Date: 01 Aug 2006 Location: Madrid Country:	18-06-2009, 16:41 Where are you heading to first? If it's somewhere in Europe (e.g. UK) you'll probably be better off than rip-off Mobal by picking up a local prepaid SIM, using it there and even going on to roam with that. Local SIM's will be stable in terms of reliability as well, and will have plenty of roaming agreements drawn up.

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,091 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Detroit (formerly Dubai) Country:	18-06-2009, 17:18 Mobal uses the 02 network which is the gold standard in roaming, but you will be paying with "gold." If your first stop on your trip is the UK, I'd get a Vodafone SIM. You'll get free incoming throughout Western Europe this summer and all calls to the UK from a Voda affiliate will be local calls. (Your phone will default to Vodafone's European network). I'd get a cheap US calling card with European dial-in numbers and use it. You'll probably be able to keep your SIM swapping to a minimum.

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kitesurfer (Offline) Junior Member Newbie Posts: 3 Join Date: 18 Jun 2009 Country:	18-06-2009, 19:05 hey - thanks for all the replies. i'm starting my trip in ecuador, then on to central america, southeast asia, and ending up around the mediteranean (greece,turkey, and europe), so it doesn't really make sense to start with vodafone. i have verizon and while they will get me an international phone, it will have an internal sim which means that i can't swap in a local sim card so would have to carry two phones. also, to get their international plan, i have to keep a domestic plan which will cost me at least $20/month (which is a decent amount when you're not even going to be in the US). Instead, i'm going to switch my verizon plan to prepaid, which works out much cheaper since i'm going to be out of the country for much of the year. the mobal really is just going to be in case of emergencies (makes my parents happier since i'm female traveling alone and kitesurfing so there is potential for injuries). i think i'll either swap in local sims or not use my cell much for normal calling. i was thinking about whether it made sense to get a Global Roaming (aka celtrek or something similar) sim card as well for more frequent use than the mobal since the mobal is so expensive per minute. But, that depends on how long the Global Roaming sim card stays active - if I have to top it off every 30 days to keep it active, its too expensive and not worth it. If i only have to top it off every year to keep it active, then its not a bad second back-up.

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powerlifter (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 174 Join Date: 06 Jan 2005 Country:	18-06-2009, 21:26 Did you think about skype? If you are have a computer or go to an internet cafe you can talk to the parents for very little money. You can get a subscription, and get something like 10,000 minutes a month. Or you can pay as you go your choice. If your parents download skype to their computer the call is free if you call their computer. You can call your home number or a cell phone again the options are endless. If I am in a country for a week or more I get a local sim card. If you use an international sim no one will want to call you as they have to pay for the call as well as you. You will meet friends, and you will want to be able to contact them. Look at skype as they have a lot of ways to stay in touch. Just something to think about. [size=1]Prepaid cards, Moldova Tempo, Kyrg Republic BiTel, India Hutch, Bulgaria Mtel, Vodafone, UK. Etisalat. UAE. Afghan Wireless, Afghanistan. Three, UK. T-mobile post-paid. Phones Gsm Iphone6+

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kitesurfer (Offline) Junior Member Newbie Posts: 3 Join Date: 18 Jun 2009 Country:	18-06-2009, 22:06 sorry - i should have clarified. i'm definitely going to do skype as my primary means of talking with family and friends back home. free is a very appealing price the cell phone will be used for 1) emergencies (i.e. i'm on a beach in ecuador and got lofted kiteboarding and slammed into a tree so am figuring out where/how to get somewhere to fix a broken bone) and 2) occasionally for setting up a hostel/hotel reservation when i first get into a country.