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[MBK]

Originally Posted by frogduck

I just tested it and it appears that I am getting Roaming rates as I was loading a 600kb picture and it cost me 1 pound. Any ideas on how to get the local rates?

Have you set it to Australia manually in the SIM Toolkit? Automatic mode sometimes doesn't work.

[MBK]

Originally Posted by frogduck

I just tested it and it appears that I am getting Roaming rates as I was loading a 600kb picture and it cost me 1 pound. Any ideas on how to get the local rates?

Is this the first time you are using data in Australia?

Because this also happened to me the first time I used data, and then it never happened again later on.

I also remember someone else posting about the same issue on Toggle's twitter. Support answered that this sometimes happens the first time (I don't remember why), if you contact them they will refund the charge.

Please post back to tell us how it went.

edit: just saw your edit

edit: OK my credit went back up for some reason so I think its working haha

[frogduck]

Originally Posted by MBK

Is this the first time you are using data in Australia?

Because this also happened to me the first time I used data, and then it never happened again later on.

I also remember someone else posting about the same issue on Toggle's twitter. Support answered that this sometimes happens the first time (I don't remember why), if you contact them they will refund the charge.

Please post back to tell us how it went.

Yes, sorry this is the first time I'm actually using data on the toggle sim at all. My credit first went down by 1 pound but then went back up to charge about only about 10p.

I have also manually set the country IMSI to Australia and it gets full signal so that seems to work well.

Thanks for the help people, looks like everything is working fine . However I will check my credit again a bit later on to see if anything has changed.

[Stu]

How is data being charged in the US?

[HappyCamp]

Originally Posted by Stu

How is data being charged in the US?

Lycamobile USA Rate Plans

[inquisitor]

For an MVNO there is never free termination in the underlying radio access network.

[MBK]

Originally Posted by inquisitor

For an MVNO there is never free termination in the underlying radio access network.

Some of them are offering totally free calling on their underlying networks.

For example, Coop Mobile prepaid pay as you go in Switzerland on the Orange network has had completely free calling to Coop Mobile as well as to Orange numbers for many years.

Even with 0 credit you can call Coop Mobile and Orange numbers for free, and you don't need to recharge for 1 or 2 years until the number gets disconnected. With 0 credit you also receive incoming calls and SMS.

So, as long as you are calling only the Orange network which is the 2nd largest network in Switzerland, your calls are completely free with your 0 credit prepaid SIM.

Lyca Switzerland first also used the Orange network, but last year (?) they changed the network to Swisscom, so they must be getting an even better deal with Swisscom than what they had with Orange.

Anyway Toggle incoming is free on the underlying networks used by Lyca. I don't know how much it costs Lyca to terminate the calls on all of their underlying networks, but it must be very low for them to have a valid business model with their free inter-Lyca calls and with Toggle.

[akraus88]

Does anybody have any idea what happens after the month has passed and I don't want the local number for 5 pounds. Will the local IMSI also stop working or just the local number, but I will still enjoy local rates and use the UK phone number?

[MBK]

Originally Posted by akraus88

Does anybody have any idea what happens after the month has passed and I don't want the local number for 5 pounds. Will the local IMSI also stop working or just the local number, but I will still enjoy local rates and use the UK phone number?

The local number is tied to your IMSI.

If you don't keep your local number you can't use the local IMSI anymore.

So, when your number expires you go back to the roaming rates (= you still enjoy free incoming in the Toggle countries).

What you can do however, is order a new free number every 30 days if you want to keep the local rates without paying the 5£.

But IMO if you are traveling regularly to a Toggle country it's much more convenient (and cheap too) to get the local number for 5£ per year.

[akraus88]

Originally Posted by MBK

The local number is tied to your IMSI.

If you don't keep your local number you can't use the local IMSI anymore.

So, when your number expires you go back to the roaming rates (= you still enjoy free incoming in the Toggle countries).

What you can do however, is order a new free number every 30 days if you want to keep the local rates without paying the 5£.

But IMO if you are traveling regularly to a Toggle country it's much more convenient (and cheap too) to get the local number for 5£ per year.

Figured that. Thanks for clarifying it.

Btw, did you actually try to receive a call on the USA number, and see if it was billed for?