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[bourbonkiller]

sorry guys, but some of you are really insane. Talking of "overpriced data" for a 20 Pound / 1 GB package valid throughout the Toggle Mobile countries is just ILL.

Here is a overview of some roaming charges from different providers:

• 3 AT - 1 GB / 30 days / EUR 50
• Swisscom CH - 1 GB / 30 days / 79 CHF (66 EUR)
• Vodafone DE prepaid: 700 MB / 2 weeks / 25 EUR
• T-Mobile DE - 150 MB fast data (but flat without speed) / week / 14.95

Thanks for UKSTEVE's comment. I really like my ALDI / Medion Mobile SIM, and I really hate her when I use it specially in Germany and have no coverage with E-Plus. But trying to sell a advantage of 4x150 MB for 19,96 EUR in 28 days over 1 GB for GBP 20,00 valid for 30 days is like looking at our world through pink glasses.

If you don't need 1 GB per month, don't buy it - but making it bad by calling it overpriced is just not fair. We are not discussing billing cycles or personal needs here. We simply look at 1 GB Data-Roaming for 30 days and for that it's bloody cheap. Can anyone show me a cheaper offer for 1 GB Multi-National Data valid for 30 days?

I can see Inquisitors point quite clear, I have a 250 MB roaming package on my 3 AT contract and it's more than enough for what I need on my mobile. But there is my swiss mobile (20 CHF per month for 1 GB) and if I travel to Germany the local data package and when I am in UK maybe another local package. That all sum's up and could be easily covered by 1 GB of Toggle Multi-National Data. And at the end it will be cheaper and only one Simcard to top up.

I have bought that 1 GB Package and will post my thoughts on it as I will travel in Switzerland, Spain and Germany in the next 30 days.

[inquisitor]

Originally Posted by bourbonkiller

But trying to sell a advantage of 4x150 MB for 19,96 EUR in 28 days over 1 GB for GBP 20,00 valid for 30 days is like looking at our world through pink glasses.

You miss an important point I made, namely that toggle works in 9 vs. 32 countries where AldiTalk's tariffs are valid, and that you can buy your data volume in smaller chunks, which - in my opinion - easily justifies the premium of 33%.
On a side note I do expect a mannered tone from you even if you disagree with my opinion.

P.S.: If you consider my comparison as unfair what should I say about your comparison with four incumbents totally ignoring peterdoo's reference to the Spanish Orange Mundo SIM?

[Donal]

Originally Posted by inquisitor

On a side note I do expect a mannered tone from you even if you disagree with my opinion.

Ha, ha, ha!

I heard a similar "fly-on-the-wall" comment exactly one hundred years ago. I hope this doesn't get me banned!

[inquisitor]

Originally Posted by Donal

Ha, ha, ha!

I heard a similar "fly-on-the-wall" comment exactly one hundred years ago. I hope this doesn't get me banned!

I know the meaning of the idiom of the "fly on the wall", but beyond that my English proficiency seems to be insufficient to understand what you are trying to say.
Anyway my warmest congratulations to your high age especially that you are still using a computer!

[bourbonkiller]

@ Inquisitor, I got your point quite right, but that might be your personal need or flavour. Take it the other way round. You sit in your hotel room, no free WIFI and need to download one or more large files (presentations, PDF etc.) from your Skydrive or Dropbox. With 150 MB a week you are quickly down to zero, aren't you? Regarding the tone, I absolutely agree with the manners, altough I havent mentioned any names in my previous post?!

All personal feelings and preferences aside, we are still not talking about billing cycles since this is the Toggle forum and we are discussing the 1 GB Multi-National Data valid for 30 days. If we all get back to that topic, do you know any cheaper Multi-National Data package containing 1 GB in Multiple Countries valid for 30 days?

If you can show me another offer that comes even close to that price (or cheaper), we can start discussing seriously about the "overpriced".

[bourbonkiller]

@ Inquisitor

It is getting confusing and hard to follow with edits of post whilst the other writes a new reply.

You are all Masters of prepaid gsm knowledge. But with all respect, this is the Toggle Forum, we are discussing above mentioned package 1 GB, Multi-National Data. It is not 1 week 150 MB or 1 day 100 MB. It is not about the good or bad of shorter time or smaller amount of data.

It's 1 GB, 30 days. Fullstop. You can use that 1 GB within one, two or three days - or you may not use the whole at all.

You can only compare it with other 1 GB Multinational Data offers valid for 30 days. I have only found far more expensive offers from competitors for the same package. Calling that offer overpriced without proving it with a cheaper example of THE SAME, is unfair. Comparing 1 week or daily offers is like comparing apples with pears. And again, our personal feelings or favours do not count...

[inquisitor]

Originally Posted by bourbonkiller

Comparing 1 week or daily offers is like comparing apples with pears.

So you are saying you cannot compare an operator offering shorter billing periods at much lower unit costs with one that charges only by months? Could you please explain what the advantage of a longer billing period is which could justify your statement?

[bourbonkiller]

I am not going to answer each of your detailed picks, since it's simply not worth battling here. It's not my interrest to fight with you. We have all waited so long for such a Multi-National Data-Roaming offer and it seems, most of you simply make it bad, based on personal flavours.

You are seriously right, that the whole consideration on my side is based (as yours) on my personal needs and it is unfavourable to use the Toggle card outside the Toggle Countries. You can compare it at least with 3 AT old "Roam like home" - if the countries included fit your usage, it's a very good offer.

In my oppinion it's still unfair to compare other billing cycles with each other. You ask me to justify the longer billing cycle. It's not about justifying it, it's just my persuasion that you have to compare the same against it. 100 MB a day is like 1 GB a month. The AVERAGE consumer doesn't need it at all. My average data roaming on my mobile with emails, messenger etc. is 120 - 150 MB a month. If you read the review of the aldi talk sim roaming package on teltarif, they state that there is no exact notification when your data volume is empty. Also there is a break between the packages if you are going to reorder one. In between, data will be billed at usual roaming prices.

If you know you are going to use a high amount of data, to my personal flavour its favouarable to have a higher fixed amount of roaming data on a longer period. Based on MY preferences I travel via Zurich Airport to Germany, Spain or Switzerland or even visit clients in Norway. Toggle covers all of my travel destinations. I live in Austria, but have 3G Swisscom/Toggle coverage at home. If I decide to book 1 GB of data within 30 days I know that I can use it in all countries I visit. It could be used within a day, a week (with no breaks in between packages to be renewed) or at least 30 days.

To close this discussion and answer your last question regarding comparion of different offers with another question: If you want to buy a car, lets say a Golf IV, and you find a offer in the newspaper. Are you going to compare that offer for the Golf with other offers for a Golf or do you compare it with Alfa Romeo, Renault, Citroen and Toyota - if you want to buy a Golf? (Golf stands here for the 1 GB package)

[Donal]

Originally Posted by bourbonkiller

If you read the review of the aldi talk sim roaming package on teltarif, they state that there is no exact notification when your data volume is empty. Also there is a break between the packages if you are going to reorder one. In between, data will be billed at usual roaming prices.

Bourbonkiller may have a very valid point here. My experience of activating a new AldiTalk sim in Germany, is that after you initially book an AldiTalk option, you are informed that it may take up to 6 hours for the newly-booked option to become active. I don't know how long you have to wait when you book one of the EU-Options.

Perhaps people can book the EU-DataOption in different countries and tell us how long they have to wait before the option is activated.

[UKSTEVE]

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree here

Basically I've been using the EuropaSIM at 3 euro a day for 500 MB of data when I've been travelling outside of the UK and in Europe.

I have a dual SIM handset (Cubot x6) with my regular contract O2-UK SIM in it, and a Toggle Mobile SIM for cheap voice calls when I travel.

I then use the EuropaSIM in a Mifi (Alcatel Y800).

If I could pay £20.00 for a 1GB of multi-country data on my Toggle SIM, I'd jump at the chance, as it would mean I wouldn't have to take my MiFi with me.

As Bourbonkiller mentions, it really comes down to convenience. Obviously, if you're travelling to a European country without Toggle discount call/data facilities, then other choices become necessary.

I think the really interesting feature with Toggle is the US voice and data option, which can be a low-cost and convenient option for globe trotters.

+Steve