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VladS · 06-09-2013, 12:57

I got the same text in the Netherlands, however all calls placed between 9/2-3 were still rated at 3p/minute.

ChrisNeedsToKnow · 07-09-2013, 08:50

Also made some calls, all charged at old rates.

Yet another incident which makes me wonder about the reliability of this provider. Unfortunately, like this, I will never turn thin into my "main" card, although I would like to do this if the offer was stable and reliable.

bourbonkiller · 08-09-2013, 13:37

Regarding the SMS with new tariffs, I haven't got one of these, but my mobile was switched off the last days. You should consider, that a mobile phone call within switzerland with all providers cost between 0.25 and and 0.70 CHF, a call abroad from a swiss mobile phone cost between 0.40 and 0.70 CHF. Considering this, 0.15p is still a decent price.

Beside that, 0.15p seems to be the regulated EU pricing for mobile phones within the EU. As long as they can keep the free incoming calls, the card is still a bargain, specially for Switzerland, as most european providers doesn't charge Switzerland as a EU countryè

BK

NFH · 08-09-2013, 19:08

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Originally Posted by bourbonkiller

most european providers doesn't charge Switzerland as a EU country

Most British networks do apply EEA price caps to Switzerland and also to the Channel Islands which are likewise outside the EEA.

bourbonkiller · 09-09-2013, 10:51

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Originally Posted by NFH

Most British networks do apply EEA price caps to Switzerland and also to the Channel Islands which are likewise outside the EEA.

Sorry, I haven't been aware of this. I live in Austria and with the just launched new contract offers, most operators took Switzerland out of the EU-Countries and almost tripled the prices for incoming and outgoing calls.

Since I live in Austria (200m from the border to Switzerland) and work in Switzerland, toggle is THE choice for me, as they have free incoming calls and outgoing rates at the moment are insanely low, even compared with the most expensive monthly all inclusive minutes offers of all swiss providers.

BK

ronwi · **USA Testing -** 09-09-2013, 19:18

Just added a US number to my SIM, used it in the US and found the following:

It does indeed charge 3p per minute for outgoing calls (test call to US number), and no charge for incoming number.

When you call someone in the US, the called party sees the US caller ID. This is different from the behavior I have experienced in Europe, where the +44 number is always shown.

You can receive SMS sent to the US number.

I did not try forwarding a US cellphone to see if the call would go through, however, I could forward my Google Voice number to the US toggle number and the call went through.

I had to manually set the SIM to the US IMSI, when I turned it on in automatic mode it went to the global roaming IMSI.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think this will have to change. In the US calls to mobiles are the same cost as calls to landlines because the mobile phone owner pays for the incoming calls (either individually or through a plan.) I don't see that there is a revenue stream to pay for what is essentially free international roaming and no monthly or per call charges for calls to a US number.

MBK · 09-09-2013, 20:54

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Originally Posted by ronwi

When you call someone in the US, the called party sees the US caller ID. This is different from the behavior I have experienced in Europe, where the +44 number is always shown.

Interesting, thanks for the feeback.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronwi

I hope I'm wrong, but I think this will have to change. In the US calls to mobiles are the same cost as calls to landlines because the mobile phone owner pays for the incoming calls (either individually or through a plan.) I don't see that there is a revenue stream to pay for what is essentially free international roaming and no monthly or per call charges for calls to a US number.

How much does lycamobile US charge for incoming calls?

The only information I could find on their web site: "Get a prepaid monthly Plan with USA and International talk, text and data from only $16/month. Or recharge and pay only 2c/minute, 4c/text and 6c/MB with Pay As You Go"

They aren't saying anything regarding incoming calls and Lyca seems to be even cheaper than Toggle. Furthermore, considering the above Lyca rates are in US cents whereas Toggle is charging in £, this would make Toggle more expensive by about 2c/min for calls, 9c/min SMS and 14c/MB data.

Lyca must be earning something with their low rates. So, Toggle seems to be getting a comfortable margin on top of that.

rfranzq · **What network[s] is it using? -** 09-09-2013, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronwi

I had to manually set the SIM to the US IMSI, when I turned it on in automatic mode it went to the global roaming IMSI.

What network[s] is it using?

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VladS (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 590 Join Date: 22 Jun 2004 Country:	06-09-2013, 12:57 I got the same text in the Netherlands, however all calls placed between 9/2-3 were still rated at 3p/minute. VladS Mobile phones: iPhone 5, Blackberry 9900, Nexus S, Samsung S3322 duos Mobile data cards: Huawei E587u-5, Huawei E583c, Huawei E160 Postpaid SIMs: CA: Fido, Wind; INTL: Telna Prepaid SIMs: DE: Fonic, Lidl; AT: yesss!, bob; UK: O2; US: AT&T; RO: Orange, Vodafone; FR: b&you, Lycamobile; NL: Lycamobile; BE: Lycamobile, Jim Mobile; CL: Entel; MX: Telcel; INTL: eKit Blue, eKit Yellow Dead SIMs: too many to list

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ChrisNeedsToKnow (Offline) Member Advanced Member Posts: 81 Join Date: 22 May 2013 Country:	07-09-2013, 08:50 Also made some calls, all charged at old rates. Yet another incident which makes me wonder about the reliability of this provider. Unfortunately, like this, I will never turn thin into my "main" card, although I would like to do this if the offer was stable and reliable.

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bourbonkiller (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 193 Join Date: 22 Dec 2004 Location: Lake of Constance Country:	08-09-2013, 13:37 Regarding the SMS with new tariffs, I haven't got one of these, but my mobile was switched off the last days. You should consider, that a mobile phone call within switzerland with all providers cost between 0.25 and and 0.70 CHF, a call abroad from a swiss mobile phone cost between 0.40 and 0.70 CHF. Considering this, 0.15p is still a decent price. Beside that, 0.15p seems to be the regulated EU pricing for mobile phones within the EU. As long as they can keep the free incoming calls, the card is still a bargain, specially for Switzerland, as most european providers doesn't charge Switzerland as a EU countryè BK ********************************************** Mobiles: iPhone 7+, iPhone 7, iPhone SE, Blackberry Priv, Honor 8, Lumia 950 Prepaid-SIM: 3 UK, Save Money Sim, Toggle Mobile UK, XX-Sim, Koko Mobile

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ronwi (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 137 Join Date: 01 Oct 2006 Country:	USA Testing - 09-09-2013, 19:18 Just added a US number to my SIM, used it in the US and found the following: It does indeed charge 3p per minute for outgoing calls (test call to US number), and no charge for incoming number. When you call someone in the US, the called party sees the US caller ID. This is different from the behavior I have experienced in Europe, where the +44 number is always shown. You can receive SMS sent to the US number. I did not try forwarding a US cellphone to see if the call would go through, however, I could forward my Google Voice number to the US toggle number and the call went through. I had to manually set the SIM to the US IMSI, when I turned it on in automatic mode it went to the global roaming IMSI. I hope I'm wrong, but I think this will have to change. In the US calls to mobiles are the same cost as calls to landlines because the mobile phone owner pays for the incoming calls (either individually or through a plan.) I don't see that there is a revenue stream to pay for what is essentially free international roaming and no monthly or per call charges for calls to a US number.