Best practice international GSM setup

[MBK]

Originally Posted by fsotirop

Please note that the 4475207 free UK number that airbalticcard offer has only 0.15eur. per call surcharge!not per minute as onesimard pen numbers or xxsim incoming numbers

Does it also accept incoming SMS or only calls?

[fsotirop]

Callcentric free US number is valid for 1month only or unlimited?

[fsotirop]

Originally Posted by MBK

Does it also accept incoming SMS or only calls?

Not sure about sms, will try tomorrow morning and i will revert back

Travelsim has very agressive marketing lately... http://www.prepaidmvno.com/2013/08/1...o-sim-service/

[MBK]

Originally Posted by fsotirop

Callcentric free US number is valid for 1month only or unlimited?

You have to use it at least once in 30 days (i.ex: make or receive at least 1 call).

They will renew it every months as long as you use it, so you can keep your free number for ever. If you don't use it after 30 days it gets canceled (but then you can request a new number).

The free INUM number (+88351000: the new worldwide local call - can be called via SIP or worldwide local dial-in numbers: Dial in numbers | inum ) however, has no limits. You keep it even if you don't use it.

The INUM number is very useful for:

• calling people who have INUM numbers (SIP users)
• forwarding between SIP providers that don't allow SIP address calling/forwarding but do handle free INUM calls (i. ex: betamax clones, localphone,... don't allow external SIP addresses, but call INUM for free)

Edit: these landline & mobile operators route calls to INUM: http://www.inum.net/?page_id=22 , and these are known to route SMS to INUM : http://www.inum.net/?page_id=24

[fsotirop]

I obtained a callcentric US number forwarded it to hotvoip.com sip address and through hotvoip windows app forwarded it to the +372 . it works for just 0.07eur.per minute.
not sure if and when betamax will reblock these 372 numbers as many times since the last 5years.
Because bear in mind that termination net rate to travelsim 372 numbers is 0.15eur per minute...excl.vat

[rfranzq]

Originally Posted by mbk

regulations have imposed the same rates for local and mobile calls. So as i understand, the called party is paying for the mobile call.

It is so long ago and I was late to the cell phone party so I am not totally sure if it was regulations or the phone companies that wanted to promote cell phone use by keeping the prices the same to call. Both parties pay a cell rate for a mobile to mobile call. [Of course many/most people seem to have unlimited plans.] Landlines never paid more to receive or call a cell phone. For cell phones now there is no 'long distance'. I can call on my cell phone Portland, Oregon or Portland, Maine or my neighbor for the same charge or free if I have unlimited.
There is, I think, a notion of 'fairness' in our own minds, at least. Europeans may differ.

[fsotirop]

On 1July 2014 when roaming within EU will cost as national EU rates all +44 +1 +371 +372 roaming simcards will loose a significant market portion. They will only fit for non EU residents or when roaming outside EU

[MBK]

Originally Posted by fsotirop

I obtained a callcentric US number forwarded it to hotvoip.com sip address and through hotvoip windows app forwarded it to the +372 . it works for just 0.07eur.per minute.
not sure if and when betamax will reblock these 372 numbers as many times since the last 5years.
Because bear in mind that termination net rate to travelsim 372 numbers is 0.15eur per minute...excl.vat

Yes!

And now you can also be reached through hundreds of worldwide local access numbers:

Dial the local access number:
SIPBroker - PSTN Numbers

And dial: *462 + your callcentric ID = *4621777xxxxxx

More info here: Support

And also via INUM access numbers:

Local access numbers: Dial in numbers | inum

And dial your INUM that was assigned to you by callcentric.

If you set the same treatment as for the US number, everything lands on your +372.

Isn't this great? Yes it is!



edit: you can set a single "speed dial" key in your phone/directory, if you don't want to double dial.

[ckh]

Originally Posted by MBK

This is what I am thinking as well.



Oh, right! (unfortunately I can't edit the comparison post anymore).



This is a great option, indeed!



I am surprised you can't change this in the GV settings, but so be it.



The Callcentric delay is also 60 seconds.

I have been looking at the SMS issue and have tested several providers. I haven't tested Anveo enough with SMS, but to me it seems to be the only one that might be able to do it properly. All the others I tried had issues delivering messages to certain countries.

Please report back with your findings.



Anveo, Voip.ms and callcentric all can do this, and divert back to voicemail after everything else fails / doesn't pickup if you don't press a defined key to answer the call (i.ex: you hear :"Incoming call from number xxxxxxx, press 1 to take this call". If you don't press 1 it goes back to voicemail, or continues ringing other phones, as you wish).

The simplest and most convenient to use, while also being one of the top quality voip providers with highest reliability is callcentric (look for the "call treatments tab" which does what you want).

Callcentic offers less options and fine tuning than Anveo or Voip.ms, but I think it has the best interface as is easier to use for most users. (it doesn't handle SMS incoming though, but can send SMS alerts i.ex on new voicemail).

Summary: if GV is really limiting you at 25 seconds, and if you need incoming SMS forwarding, Anveo is your only reliable (?) and (relatively) simple option as far as I know.


Please come back to tell us how it works out.

Thanks for your tips! Great information!!

I'm currently trying to build the desired "call flow" in my anveo account, but it seems like transfering incoming sms is nog yet possible (created a support ticket).

So having my callcentric pick up my GV seems a good alternative to keep one number with sms. I only have only question as I'm familiar with callcentric:

- How do you force the incoming call to be "picked up" before starting call hunting?

And then a additional improvement point would be to have a good solid US number provider for sms with cheap forwarding to Estonia. Because now I have GV send an email for each incoming sms and forward email that to sms by email-to-sms of SMSmail (5cpm)

...and is MobileVoip btw not a cheaper version of callcentric.com/support/device/iphone/callcentric? Maybe that explanation can help others.

[MBK]

Originally Posted by ckh

Thanks for your tips! Great information!!

I'm currently trying to build the desired "call flow" in my anveo account, but it seems like transfering incoming sms is nog yet possible (created a support ticket).

You should be able to forward the SMS with Anveo like this:

You get the variables ($[from]$, $[to]$, $[message]$) from the incoming SMS:
Anveo.com - Receive SMS over HTTP Gateway

To send the new SMS out with Anveo (use the variable from incoming above in the http link):
Anveo.com - BulkSMS HTTP Gateway

Anveo charges $0.057 for the SMS to +372.

If you want, you can send it out cheaper with the betamax clones (€0.02 with Telbo, hotvoip is €0.04 - rates here: SMS Betamax ):

To send the new SMS with hotvoip (replace hotvoip with telbo in the URL to use telbo):

(use the $[from]$, $[to]$, $[message]$ variables from incoming)

https://www.hotvoip.com/myaccount/sendsms.php?username=xxxxxxxx&password=xxxxxxxx&from=00447xxxxxxxxx&to=00447xxxxxxxxx&text=Hello-

But the cheapest for forwarding is of course to use the onesimcard as you can send it for free to 372xxxx@sms.onesimcard.com.