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[VladS]

Do either +372 operators offer VoIP integration?

[fsotirop]

Originally Posted by VladS

Do either +372 operators offer VoIP integration?

+371 operators like xxsim, airbaltic and travelsim no they don't offer.
piranhamobile and camelmobile they do offer.

[dg7feq]

Originally Posted by VladS

Do either +372 operators offer VoIP integration?

i did that self made. my PBX at home is configured to forward calls to my XX as long as my SIP is not registered (from any betamax). So if i am online on VoIP the Voip rings, otherwise the XXSim. Outgoing on SIP go to the normal betamax/finera rates...

[VladS]

Originally Posted by dg7feq

i did that self made. my PBX at home is configured to forward calls to my XX as long as my SIP is not registered (from any betamax). So if i am online on VoIP the Voip rings, otherwise the XXSim. Outgoing on SIP go to the normal betamax/finera rates...

That's an approach, however I'm looking for something a bit more reliable and with proper CID delivery (Betamax retail and wholesale clones are the worst when it comes to CID delivery, even on premium routes). Xxsim already have a Skype route, why not add a SIP one too?!

I do have a couple of Skype for Asterisk channels on my Asterisk box, but call supervision is iffy.

[fsotirop]

Originally Posted by VladS

That's an approach, however I'm looking for something a bit more reliable and with proper CID delivery (Betamax retail and wholesale clones are the worst when it comes to CID delivery, even on premium routes). Xxsim already have a Skype route, why not add a SIP one too?!

I do have a couple of Skype for Asterisk channels on my Asterisk box, but call supervision is iffy.

they won't add a sip one because it isn't profitable.. xxsim is a reseller of travelsim ( http://new.travelsim.com ) , travelsim has NOT invested to voip and they won't do it in the future either.. because actually their main goal is to have revenues only from high termination rates. currently 0.15eur. per minute.....

for voip intergration you better use piranhamobile or camelmobile, used them both and worked just perfect. camelmobile's voip has perfect call quality (almost as a pstn line) but piranha's quality is also quite good.


*have a look also here: http://www.piranha-mobile.com/roaming.pdf to fully understand how estonian based simcards like xxsim make profit from their customers.

[VladS]

Originally Posted by fsotirop

they won't add a sip one because it isn't profitable.. xxsim is a reseller of travelsim ( TravelSim | Travel. Talk. Save. ) , travelsim has NOT invested to voip and they won't do it in the future either.. because actually their main goal is to have revenues only from high termination rates. currently 0.15eur. per minute.....

I don't look at Travelsim products as being targeted strictly to the euro traveler. There are plenty of high cost destinations such as Chile and Argentina currently 'free' on both xxsim, Travelsim and their clones. Even with a EUR0.15 VoIP termination fee, you're still a whole lot cheaper than other providers.

My goal is not to minimize cost but to reduce cost while maintaining reliability.

[fsotirop]

Originally Posted by VladS

I don't look at Travelsim products as being targeted strictly to the euro traveler. There are plenty of high cost destinations such as Chile and Argentina currently 'free' on both xxsim, Travelsim and their clones. Even with a EUR0.15 VoIP termination fee, you're still a whole lot cheaper than other providers.

My goal is not to minimize cost but to reduce cost while maintaining reliability.

you can then have a look to camelmobile..they offer free calls to 125 countries ( http://www.camelmobile.com/assets/fi...v/rategprs.pdf ), they offer sip and now there is a voip provider offering 0.12eurocents to their +3712 numbers.
*their sip call quality is just excellent. they use Vodafone's roaming agreements ( http://bugs.sertexsoft.com/wiki/doku...aming_partners) and infrastructure.
now there is even the possibility to make direct calls when roaming on vodafone networks! no more callback..

the only real disadvantage is that they don't offer incoming free calls to Canada.
forgot to mention that as of 15-October-2012 sms sent via USSD (sim menu toolkit) are now charged for just 0,08eur./sms from all countries sent to everywhere in the world! huge savings with this.
because i see you reside in Canada, camelmobile also offres the option to choose between 2 billing currencies... either euro or usd.

i can confirm about their reliability, we have 50+simcards to our business for our truckers+sales personnel abroad.

[VladS]

Originally Posted by fsotirop

you can then have a look to camelmobile..they offer free calls to 125 countries ( http://www.camelmobile.com/assets/fi...v/rategprs.pdf ), they offer sip and now there is a voip provider offering 0.12eurocents to their +3712 numbers.
*their sip call quality is just excellent. they use Vodafone's roaming agreements and infrastructure.

only real disadvantage is that they don't offer incoming free calls to Canada.

I did check CamelMobile out out, in face I just got off the phone with their customer service. While they have a SIP client, you can't directly route calls to their switch over IP so a user is stuck with PSTN interconnects.