Vodaphone Spain pay as you go account transfered to UK, and rest of Europe? Possible?

saren · 10-03-2008, 18:26

By the way, I think Tmobile prepay tariffs are cheaper than Asda, no?
http://www.asda-phones.co.uk/tariff_...10&tc=14&stg=2

petkow · 10-03-2008, 18:49

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Originally Posted by saren

By the way, I think Tmobile prepay tariffs are cheaper than Asda, no?
http://www.asda-phones.co.uk/tariff_...10&tc=14&stg=2

Well it all depends on how many minutes you will talk in a day. T-Mo's cheapest deal is 15p/min. Asda is 16p/min but after 3 mins of collective calls in a day the rate halves. That does not happen with T-Mobile. It stays at 15p. If you are expecting to make more than 4mins of calls on any day Asda is cheaper. If not, it is only 1p/min more expensive! See: http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobil...home_paygplans and look at the call costs to call other networks!

With regards to your other points:

You are right: Voipwise (part of Betamax) will give you the cheapest calls by far for landlines etc. There are many brands of the same company to chose from. For a smaller outlay you could consider voipraider. The min topup is US$10 (less than €10 needed on other brands).

As I said, by the time you are ready to go to Norway, bin your Asda card and research what local SIM will be best for there here on prepaidgsm. If you are really only considering making very few calls "emergency-only" type calls throughout your whole stay in any country and not getting to be using it for incoming or SMS, you could really consider a single roaming SIM. There are quite a few that will let you call from anywhere in Europe to anywhere for around 40c/min.

With regards to what you can do with your other cards why not flog them off here or on ebay?

saren · 10-03-2008, 19:10

When ASDA says the rate will be halved, is that calculated per day or per call?

As for the global sim, I am considering it but which one is best? Probably one without a setup/connection fee per call, and the cheapest outgoing per minute rate to mobiles around the world (with europe (including east europe) as the priority). I am moving in an easterly direction (next major stops are all of Europe, then the New European countries, Middle East, Asia, and finally Australia. The Americas are least important).

How do I compare the best global SIM vs. local SIMS (in each country) for the type of calls I plan on making. What's the deciding factor?

Asda for example is really cheap per minute, and the SIM itself is almost free (so it sounds perfect). If it's possible to find ASDA equivalents in most countries around the world, then what's the point of purchasing a Global SIM (and its expensive per minute rates)?

As for ebay, I have never used it (so it may be complicated for me and I don't have a physical address (that doesn't change every month)...

By the way, what's flog?

petkow · 10-03-2008, 19:52

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Originally Posted by saren

When ASDA says the rate will be halved, is that calculated per day or per call?

I can't understand this question. It's all on the site anyhow! If you call person A for 2 mins. This call will cost you 2x16p = 32p. If you then call person B for 2 mins. This call will cost you 16p + 8p =24 mins. If you then make any other call for 10 mins that call will cost you 80p.

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How do I compare the best global SIM vs. local SIMS (in each country) for the type of calls I plan on making. What's the deciding factor?

Deciding factors: Price, card validity, incoming calls free in which country etc. It's all here on the site. You'll have to look for it a bit first or I could write volumes. Just remember though you say incoming doesn't bother you, in most cases calls are made via a callback mechanism.

Even if not considering a Global SIM, with roaming with a normal local SIM is fairly cheap these days. e.g. UK o2 MyEuropeExtra calls are 25p/min from anywhere and to anywhere in Europe.

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Asda for example is really cheap per minute, and the SIM itself is almost free (so it sounds perfect). If it's possible to find ASDA equivalents in most countries around the world, then what's the point of purchasing a Global SIM (and its expensive per minute rates)?

Well that's what I said initially. Thats definately what I would do. Prepaid SIM packs are dirt cheap or even free pretty much anywhere these days (well apart from the Americas).

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As for ebay, I have never used it (so it may be complicated for me and I don't have a physical address (that doesn't change every month)...

As you say!

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By the way, what's flog?

Sell

saren · 10-03-2008, 20:57

ok i understand its calculated per day, which is best. i assumed each call was 16p for the first 3 minutes, and any successive minutes were reduced. Then a new call would start at 16p again for the first 3 minutes, and so on. Im glad I was wrong.

I'm curious about this callback feature. Does that mean everytime I want to make a call, I have to answer a call first? This appllies to world sims only, right? Or does Asda do that too? Ive never used SIMS like that before.

I have to decide now whether to use TravelSIM (which is around 20p/min to most European mobiles) + free incoming (and no setup), or desposible SIMS in each country.

Regarding selling SIMS, I checked that sub-forum forum and it's pretty empty. Do people really buy OLD sims?

petkow · 10-03-2008, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by saren

ok i understand its calculated per day, which is best. i assumed each call was 16p for the first 3 minutes, and any successive minutes were reduced. Then a new call would start at 16p again for the first 3 minutes, and so on. Im glad I was wrong.

I'm curious about this callback feature. Does that mean everytime I want to make a call, I have to answer a call first? This appllies to world sims only, right? Or does Asda do that too? Ive never used SIMS like that before.

I have to decide now whether to use TravelSIM (which is around 20p/min to most European mobiles) + free incoming (and no setup), or desposible SIMS in each country.

Regarding selling SIMS, I checked that sub-forum forum and it's pretty empty. Do people really buy OLD sims?

Callback: This is how most international roaming SIMs work. National SIM's (like Asda) do not do this. When doing a callback call, in most cases, you will not notice anything too different! You dialled number as normal (either from the adress book or direct) and then push send/green/go. Then your screen will probably go blank and then your phone will start ringing a few seconds later. This will then be your outgoing call.

TravelSIM is not the only one. Have you seen the full comparison here?:
http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/international.html

In case you hadn't noticed you will also find on this site the prices of SIM's in all the countries you want to go to. http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/operators.html

Regarding your final question. Most people do not normally buy anything unless they see it as having value to them and at a good price. You say some of your SIM's still have $60 of credit on them. At the right price sure someone will buy it off you! However regarding some of your other SIMs (like national European SIM's), these are so cheap these days that it is little point in buying second hand. Also your buyer would have to be certain that the SIM's are still valid and still have the said credit on them!

saren · 10-03-2008, 22:11

hi i decided on travelsim because of comparison here
http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/int/compare.html

Perhaps you know something about travelsim not mentioned there. It has the lowest per minute rate for outgoing calls (20p/min), no setup fee (unlike united mobile), free incoming from europe, and credit included in the initial purchase).

Maxroam has the same outgoing rate but with too many exceptions, and half the credit included in the initial purchase.

One thing i dont understand on either SIMSis the billing period? 60/60, 30/30. What does that mean?

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saren (Offline) Member Official Member Posts: 40 Join Date: 10 Mar 2008 Country:	10-03-2008, 18:26 By the way, I think Tmobile prepay tariffs are cheaper than Asda, no? http://www.asda-phones.co.uk/tariff_...10&tc=14&stg=2

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saren (Offline) Member Official Member Posts: 40 Join Date: 10 Mar 2008 Country:	10-03-2008, 19:10 When ASDA says the rate will be halved, is that calculated per day or per call? As for the global sim, I am considering it but which one is best? Probably one without a setup/connection fee per call, and the cheapest outgoing per minute rate to mobiles around the world (with europe (including east europe) as the priority). I am moving in an easterly direction (next major stops are all of Europe, then the New European countries, Middle East, Asia, and finally Australia. The Americas are least important). How do I compare the best global SIM vs. local SIMS (in each country) for the type of calls I plan on making. What's the deciding factor? Asda for example is really cheap per minute, and the SIM itself is almost free (so it sounds perfect). If it's possible to find ASDA equivalents in most countries around the world, then what's the point of purchasing a Global SIM (and its expensive per minute rates)? As for ebay, I have never used it (so it may be complicated for me and I don't have a physical address (that doesn't change every month)... By the way, what's flog?

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saren (Offline) Member Official Member Posts: 40 Join Date: 10 Mar 2008 Country:	10-03-2008, 20:57 ok i understand its calculated per day, which is best. i assumed each call was 16p for the first 3 minutes, and any successive minutes were reduced. Then a new call would start at 16p again for the first 3 minutes, and so on. Im glad I was wrong. I'm curious about this callback feature. Does that mean everytime I want to make a call, I have to answer a call first? This appllies to world sims only, right? Or does Asda do that too? Ive never used SIMS like that before. I have to decide now whether to use TravelSIM (which is around 20p/min to most European mobiles) + free incoming (and no setup), or desposible SIMS in each country. Regarding selling SIMS, I checked that sub-forum forum and it's pretty empty. Do people really buy OLD sims?

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saren (Offline) Member Official Member Posts: 40 Join Date: 10 Mar 2008 Country:	10-03-2008, 22:11 hi i decided on travelsim because of comparison here http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/int/compare.html Perhaps you know something about travelsim not mentioned there. It has the lowest per minute rate for outgoing calls (20p/min), no setup fee (unlike united mobile), free incoming from europe, and credit included in the initial purchase). Maxroam has the same outgoing rate but with too many exceptions, and half the credit included in the initial purchase. One thing i dont understand on either SIMSis the billing period? 60/60, 30/30. What does that mean?