Globalsimcard.co.uk (geosim) update

snidely · 08-12-2007, 20:18

Hi tech companies have a failure rate even greater than restaurants. In the U.S., one or two satellite TV companies shut their doors in past years, leaving customers with expensive useless equipment. Years ago LD carrier on our landlines suddenly shut. No out of pocket loss but a hassle for a day until we switched carriers.
Years ago I was the first in my neighborhood to get DSL. In Ca. you picked your DSL provider and the connection was installed by the phone company. When the provider suddenly went out of business, the phone company wouldn't switch me to another provider (even to themselves) w.o. getting permission from my now defunct DSL company. I simply had the phone company install DSL on a second phone line we had.
The few dollars that someone loses on a defunct card is no big deal. People who whine about that need to get a life.
In the U.S. your old TV will become useless unless your buy a digital converter. Your perfectly good analogue or TDMA phone will become worthless next year.

Bottom line - anyone who buys cutting edge technology or service, especially from a small company, knows they are taking chances. You can protect yourself somewhat by buying small amounts at a time w. a credit card. You have at least some period of time to have the credit card company reverse the charge if the company goes out of business and doesn't deliver.

...mike

P.S. Last March I "crashed" a hi-tech VOIP, cell, phone conference in San Francisco and posted a quote from one of the gurus there that one or more of these intl. SIM providers would be shut down soon. ALthough I did state I didn't know the reason and was purely speculating what woud cause this, moderator Andy said I shouldn't post "rumors". (I did state that I couldn't confirm the statement this one individual made.)
Point is - obviously there are people on the inside who know more about this stuff (both technically and businesswise) than those of us here. The tech sessions there were way above my head.

andy · 08-12-2007, 21:59

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Originally Posted by snidely

P.S. Last March I "crashed" a hi-tech VOIP, cell, phone conference in San Francisco and posted a quote from one of the gurus there that one or more of these intl. SIM providers would be shut down soon. ALthough I did state I didn't know the reason and was purely speculating what woud cause this, moderator Andy said I shouldn't post "rumors". (I did state that I couldn't confirm the statement this one individual made.)
Point is - obviously there are people on the inside who know more about this stuff (both technically and businesswise) than those of us here.

Yet again the same argument.

You didn't name one company and say it was in financial difficulties [which we now surmise might have been accurate]; you said the free ride or some such similar phrase of most of these operations would soon be drawn to an end. Even above, your wording is would be shut down, the word 'be' switching the grammar from active to passive, changing the party responsible

Both I and someone pointed out that most of the prognosis was a mixture of guesswork and incorrect assumptions about ownership regulatory and tax subsidy issues, and was not similar to the assymmetric Iowa tariffs.

The failure of Callkey is due to Callkey, not an environment that is intrinsically hostile to these possibilities. No territory has ceased to host such arrangements, and 3 or 4 more have opened up since the time of your comments.

The new owners of the remnants of Callkey appear to intend to resume operations; there are other prospective new entrants, and existing operations are hinting at improvements in tariffs and ease of use.

That doesn't quite fit that old scenario that suggested the best of times were about to be behind us.

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snidely (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 451 Join Date: 09 May 2005 Location: Berkeley, California and Miami Country:	08-12-2007, 20:18 Hi tech companies have a failure rate even greater than restaurants. In the U.S., one or two satellite TV companies shut their doors in past years, leaving customers with expensive useless equipment. Years ago LD carrier on our landlines suddenly shut. No out of pocket loss but a hassle for a day until we switched carriers. Years ago I was the first in my neighborhood to get DSL. In Ca. you picked your DSL provider and the connection was installed by the phone company. When the provider suddenly went out of business, the phone company wouldn't switch me to another provider (even to themselves) w.o. getting permission from my now defunct DSL company. I simply had the phone company install DSL on a second phone line we had. The few dollars that someone loses on a defunct card is no big deal. People who whine about that need to get a life. In the U.S. your old TV will become useless unless your buy a digital converter. Your perfectly good analogue or TDMA phone will become worthless next year. Bottom line - anyone who buys cutting edge technology or service, especially from a small company, knows they are taking chances. You can protect yourself somewhat by buying small amounts at a time w. a credit card. You have at least some period of time to have the credit card company reverse the charge if the company goes out of business and doesn't deliver. ...mike P.S. Last March I "crashed" a hi-tech VOIP, cell, phone conference in San Francisco and posted a quote from one of the gurus there that one or more of these intl. SIM providers would be shut down soon. ALthough I did state I didn't know the reason and was purely speculating what woud cause this, moderator Andy said I shouldn't post "rumors". (I did state that I couldn't confirm the statement this one individual made.) Point is - obviously there are people on the inside who know more about this stuff (both technically and businesswise) than those of us here. The tech sessions there were way above my head. Make use of T-M's UMA/wifi free calling from any place in the world with access to wifi. I use an LG G6, wife an S7) A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20¢/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries. My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year. Last edited by snidely; 08-12-2007 at 20:42..