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Default 20-11-2007, 18:04

@YackieMobile

... any quote on solving the issue rate tables minus erros?
   
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Default YackieMobile raised prices without notice? - 22-11-2007, 19:54

I just took a closer look on the rate table.

@YackieMobile, have you guys honestly raised the prices within the EU without notifying the customers???

Calls from HU to DE and UK have been raised up 10 US Cent. Iīm little confused and I feel a little f...ed over to be honest, since I have the SIM card Iīve been not charged the regular price which was 0,69 US cent, so this 0,79 US cent crap was the whole time in your system implemented and you do charge it constantly.

Why doing business this way???

Hell yeah! You have changed the prices and no info at all!

Why are you doing this??? DE->DE is now 0,89 US cent what the hell happened? Since when does the oil price infect the roaming prices?

You do charge now for a call from A to DE 0,89 US (0,601 Euro Cent) cent, why for jesus christ should I use the YM SIM when the outgoing calls are now cheaper when I do them through my home operators SIM???

Iīm so stupid, I really thought you guys will do a way better job than these Callkey midgets. Why donīt you offer real value instead just raise prices after making a good show.

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Question 22-11-2007, 21:08

The rate table was updated by yackie.
Now i observed something very strange. I thought the forward from the DID would be always charged with 0.29 US$. Plus the incoming charge in the non-free incoming countries.

BUT: They seem to charge randomly different amounts for the forward depending on where you are.

randomly choosen examples:

Russia
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : $ 0.5
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $0.74 + $0.5

Mexico
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : $ 1.3
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $1.54 + $1.3

Germany
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : FREE
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $0.29

Thailand
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : $ 0.8
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $1.04 + $0.8

So that makes a range from 0,29 US$ to 1,54 US$ for the forward. What's this crap about? I'm eager to find out the reason.

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Default 25-11-2007, 16:10

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The rate table was updated by yackie.
Now i observed something very strange. I thought the forward from the DID would be always charged with 0.29 US$. Plus the incoming charge in the non-free incoming countries.

BUT: They seem to charge randomly different amounts for the forward depending on where you are.

randomly choosen examples:

Russia
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : $ 0.5
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $0.74 + $0.5

Mexico
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : $ 1.3
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $1.54 + $1.3

Germany
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : FREE
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $0.29

Thailand
Incoming call by using your Free incoming number (354) : $ 0.8
Incoming call by using your selected local Number : $1.04 + $0.8

So that makes a range from 0,29 US$ to 1,54 US$ for the forward. What's this crap about? I'm eager to find out the reason.

Chris
I confirm.......Human error, in fact the + $*,00 is already include

when we have a RPP surcharge in the countries, you have the Free incoming who can not be free, we just use the profit made in this incoming call for decreasing your cost for the RPP, and this is cost for us, we dont charge any Mark up, and with the DID, it`s simple, Surtax + 0,29 $

It is just a Presentation error, the rates tables is good


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Default 25-11-2007, 21:57

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I confirm.......Human error, in fact the + $*,00 is already include

when we have a RPP surcharge in the countries, you have the Free incoming who can not be free, we just use the profit made in this incoming call for decreasing your cost for the RPP, and this is cost for us, we dont charge any Mark up, and with the DID, it`s simple, Surtax + 0,29 $

It is just a Presentation error, the rates tables is good
Ah ok.. good to know. Thanks for the clarification.


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Default Yackie in Mexico - 30-11-2007, 19:20

What's the status of the rates for Mexico?

They still show incoming though the +354 number @ $1.30/minute, while 09 still shows them as being free...


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Default 30-11-2007, 23:30

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What's the status of the rates for Mexico?

They still show incoming though the +354 number @ $1.30/minute, while 09 still shows them as being free...
09 charge us 1.30 $

RPP countries, Mistake on 09 web site


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Default 23-11-2007, 09:03

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Why are you doing this??? DE->DE is now 0,89 US cent what the hell happened? Since when does the oil price infect the roaming prices?
It's not about oil, I think. Simply US dollar is getting weaker and weaker againt euro, so they have to pay more and more dollars to Europan operators (perhaps not directly, it's enough that 09 charging them in euros - the final result is the same). However, if you pay less and less in forints for each Yackie dollar top-up, you should be "rewarded" (to some extent) for those nominally higher prices

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You do charge now for a call from A to DE 0,89 US (0,601 Euro Cent) cent, why for jesus christ should I use the YM SIM when the outgoing calls are now cheaper when I do them through my home operators SIM???
You mean a Hungarian SIM roaming in Austria? Despite the fact, that roaming prices in the EU are limited by the law, think about the number of operators involved. When you call from Austria with a Hungarian SIM, it involves your "home" operator and its Austrian roaming partner. But when you use Yackie, you really use an Austrian roaming partner, 09 of Iceland, Swisscom as the "roaming provider" and Yackie of Miami to charge for all this stuff. Whereas using Yackie allows avoiding European VAT, it doesn't have necessarily to be cheaper, I dare to suppose .
   
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It's not about oil, I think. Simply US dollar is getting weaker and weaker againt euro, so they have to pay more and more dollars to Europan operators (perhaps not directly, it's enough that 09 charging them in euros - the final result is the same). However, if you pay less and less in forints for each Yackie dollar top-up, you should be "rewarded" (to some extent) for those nominally higher prices
Nice that you have looked after the Forint but Iīm paying in Euro, !should! YM have raised the prices without giving a notice to anybody I !would! be very pi...d because Iīm doing business as well every day and I have to inform my customers (when I have to raise the prices) if I donīt want to loose them. The oil question was sarcastically asked, but Iīm sure you noticed that ..

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You mean a Hungarian SIM roaming in Austria? Despite the fact, that roaming prices in the EU are limited by the law, think about the number of operators involved. When you call from Austria with a Hungarian SIM, it involves your "home" operator and its Austrian roaming partner. But when you use Yackie, you really use an Austrian roaming partner, 09 of Iceland, Swisscom as the "roaming provider" and Yackie of Miami to charge for all this stuff. Whereas using Yackie allows avoiding European VAT, it doesn't have necessarily to be cheaper, I dare to suppose
No I mean not just a Hungarian SIM I mean a German and Italian and English SIM as well. Honestly I donīt care how many operators are involved in any action when YM is connecting a call form my destination to the recipient destination. Now you ask why, because YM is offering a roaming solution (as they call them self the roaming solver), as long as they arenīt market able with these prices I wonīt use them and when their prices are higher than the prices my home operators do offer why should I use them, itīs for my needs more comfortable to have one SIM and not 8, so asked again why use YM when other operators do have !now! lower prices than YM? Simple question. So donīt try to break in a market you canīt rule, the prices which where offered 4 or 5 weeks ago have been perfect for use within the EU the prices now are definitely to high.

But I think you as a smart customer and user of roaming solutions are clear with these facts ...

@YackieMobile, I really hope this was just a mistake, as well as the connecting fees for the DID. If you need to raise prices do it with offering new or "more" value for the single customer.

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Default 23-11-2007, 19:57

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YM have raised the prices without giving a notice to anybody I !would! be very pi...d because Iīm doing business as well every day and I have to inform my customers (when I have to raise the prices) if I donīt want to loose them.
Actually, you're lucky; try looking up the rates for making calls from France Germany or Belgium- 89 or 99 cents to UK and other mobiles.

Some of Yackie's rates look quite a bit higher that the underlying 09 Mobile, whose tariffs are published in Euros not Dollars.

Yackie will be interesting to Americans of course, but apart from them one wonders how attractive it is. The Eurotariff is 59 eurocents which is cheaper than Yackie to Europe, while some are cheaper still; a 3 UK SIM has outgoing calls at 25 pence a minute, about half the price of Yackie.
   
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