Yackie or Hop Mobile?...or another?

[teothx]

Originally Posted by andy

We realise Hiboo is your favourite, but don't call it cheap. There are callback services around half the price.

Now I've visited the Hiboo mobile site, they rate USA to Italy only 0.20€

I think it's cheap...

[snidely]

1. It doesn't pay to use any of the "Int'l" SIM cards in the U.S. Most have to charge $1.00 to $1.50/min. Prepaids here are less than 25 cents and most are under 15 cents/min.
2. Calling an Italy landline would be under 3 cents/min. on most dial up LD carriers like pingo.com and onesuite.com. To call a mobile is less than 25 cents. IOW, all you would spend to call Italy from you U.S. prepaid SIM is the airtime + 3 cents. If there were a payphone handy, you dial a toll free number (no coins needed) and pick up a dial tone, enter your PIN number and call Italy for 4 cents. (You wouldn't need to enter a PIN when calling from your cell once you set up your LD account with most all LD dial around carriers.

...mike

[teothx]

Originally Posted by snidely

1. It doesn't pay to use any of the "Int'l" SIM cards in the U.S. Most have to charge $1.00 to $1.50/min. Prepaids here are less than 25 cents and most are under 15 cents/min.
2. Calling an Italy landline would be under 3 cents/min. on most dial up LD carriers like pingo.com and onesuite.com. To call a mobile is less than 25 cents. IOW, all you would spend to call Italy from you U.S. prepaid SIM is the airtime + 3 cents. If there were a payphone handy, you dial a toll free number (no coins needed) and pick up a dial tone, enter your PIN number and call Italy for 4 cents. (You wouldn't need to enter a PIN when calling from your cell once you set up your LD account with most all LD dial around carriers.

...mike

I see pingo.com and onesuite.com, very good rates...and if I understand also with mobile phone....

[snidely]

Originally Posted by teothx

I see pingo.com and onesuite.com, very good rates...and if I understand also with mobile phone....

In the U.S. you can dial any number from a cell phone that you can dial from a landline. There are numerous companies like pingo and onesuite. Another that seems to be popular on various forums is "tel3advantage.com" They almost all have the ability for you to "register" phones you will be using so you don't have to enter a PIN number. Just dial the LD carrier's number, a second later you'll hear a voice saying "please enter the number you are calling". Most of these services have allow you to enter speed dial numbers into the system so you just need to press a couple of keys. Pingo has PINless dialing but no speed dial. I use them because they have low rates to Costa Rica.
Rates to first world countries are pretty much the same no matter who you use.

...mike

[andy]

Originally Posted by teothx

Now I've visited the Hiboo mobile site, they rate USA to Italy only 0.20€

I think it's cheap...

For a moment I thought you meant Italy mobile, so I checked

USA - Italy 20 cents; USA - Italy Mobile 50 cents

compare (1st figure US mobile - Italy; 2nd to Italy mobile)

Enlinea (US cents) 6c 28c

Mywebcalls (US c) 2.7c 22-25c

Voipbuster - 1.2c 28.6c

Vyke - 3.36c 25.7c

Voxalot + Voipcheap - 1.2c 14.3c

So, some of us could call an Italian mobile cheaper than Hiboo could reach a landline; that's why I said it is not cheap. 60 or 70 cents between 2 European mobiles is poor (GSM2world is 30c, Voxalot + Voipcheap can be less), and 20 cents between 2 landlines is atrocious. The 40c rate for Iceland mobile only beats 09 Mobile's own 39c tariff by saving the connection fee.

Don't forget that using callback with a US mobile, you'll still be paying for the incoming call, so using a callthrough arrangement is likely to be as good.

[teothx]

I'm try to understand what's the best rate to Italy: with international sims or prepaid card, it's not important how...

I say that Hiboo it's cheap because I'll make only (or maybe) mobile to landline (Usa to Italy).
And I don't understand if pingo.com and others works by mobile phone...because I think that are the very best alternatives to international sims

[snidely]

Originally Posted by teothx

And I don't understand if pingo.com and others works by mobile phone...because I think that are the very best alternatives to international sims

Hope we don't "have a failure to communicate". Just to repeat, you can use pingo.com and others from ANY phone - landline or cell. You can call ANY number from landline or cell including toll free (what you may call "free call") numbers from landline or cell. With a cell you pay for airtime no matter what kind of number you call.
You are right - a MUCH CHEAPER alternative to intl. SIMS.

...mike

[teothx]

Originally Posted by snidely

Hope we don't "have a failure to communicate". Just to repeat, you can use pingo.com and others from ANY phone - landline or cell. You can call ANY number from landline or cell including toll free (what you may call "free call") numbers from landline or cell. With a cell you pay for airtime no matter what kind of number you call.
You are right - a MUCH CHEAPER alternative to intl. SIMS.

...mike

Thanks!

[teothx]

Originally Posted by snidely

Hope we don't "have a failure to communicate". Just to repeat, you can use pingo.com and others from ANY phone - landline or cell. You can call ANY number from landline or cell including toll free (what you may call "free call") numbers from landline or cell. With a cell you pay for airtime no matter what kind of number you call.
You are right - a MUCH CHEAPER alternative to intl. SIMS.

...mike

But with Pingo.com, onesuite.com, tel3advange.com, if I call the toll free number by mobile, I'll pay for receive in USA, because it's a call-back number, so it's not so cheap...or there are a possibile to make a direct call?

And I see that pingo, for example, as a montly tax.....

So...what's the best to call from a mobile phone to...the world?

[snidely]

Originally Posted by teothx

But with Pingo.com, onesuite.com, tel3advange.com, if I call the toll free number by mobile, I'll pay for receive in USA, because it's a call-back number, so it's not so cheap...or there are a possibile to make a direct call?

And I see that pingo, for example, as a montly tax.....

So...what's the best to call from a mobile phone to...the world?

I've lost track of what you are doing. Are you going to be using a U.S.. SIM, like from Cingular or T-M.?

...mike