Split - data SIM in Poland

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by Asick

Yes, I understand the list might be a bit outdated, however I believe most of the info is still correct there, so it will help.

Addresses in my area seem to be OK, so I think they are moreless OK for the rest of the country .

Originally Posted by Asick

Oh, yes, I know it and I do not plan to GPRS during the New Year night. It's interesting that here we used to have complete network collapses during such the nights in 2001 or 2002, while it was generally OK in 2005 or 2006 (were able to call from 2nd or 3rd attempt and so on), I guess that's because they had to expand the number of BTSes and channels due to the number of users raised in times, so it helps during peak usage too.

I think that the situation is getting slowly better also here. However, landlines are much more reliable in this psecific time .

Originally Posted by Asick

The only problem that it's still unclear how much money the hotel would take for it. I hope it would not be 2-3 initial rates... You say it's less than 100% surcharge, is it what you actually know or just guessing?

In hotels (low/medium class) in which I stayed in 2005 and 2006 the surcharge was about 33-40% It might be expressed as the cost of a "billing impulse" (which is enough for 3 min local call/dialup) is let's say 0.50 PLN whereas the same "impulse" from a home line would cost 0.36 PLN. I recalled that there may be another problem - the phone cable may be permamently (i.e not via plugs) attached both to the wall and the phone itself . OTOH there may be Internet access in the hotel via the internet or WiFi, but it's still not very likely.

[Asick]

Originally Posted by Przemolog

I think that the situation is getting slowly better also here. However, landlines are much more reliable in this psecific time .

Here I can't say landlines are reliable since overload is quite common during the New Year night at many landline local switches, especially old mechanical ones that still exist here. So, it depends.

Originally Posted by Przemolog

I recalled that there may be another problem - the phone cable may be permamently (i.e not via plugs) attached both to the wall and the phone itself . OTOH there may be Internet access in the hotel via the internet or WiFi, but it's still not very likely.

WiFi might be very useful but I agree it's not very likely in my case. I'm not planning to stay at 4-5 star hotels, and I don't think it's common to have WiFi spots at 3 stars in Poland, right? And the locked cable... well, a phone might have a plug of the same type for a handset or something similar, so there might be a trick etc., but I do not plan to destroy the hotel equipment with a screwdriver and a soldering iron. Hope the plugs will be where they should.

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by Asick

WiFi might be very useful but I agree it's not very likely in my case. I'm not planning to stay at 4-5 star hotels, and I don't think it's common to have WiFi spots at 3 stars in Poland, right? And the locked cable... well, a phone might have a plug of the same type for a handset or something similar, so there might be a trick etc., but I do not plan to destroy the hotel equipment with a screwdriver and a soldering iron. Hope the plugs will be where they should.

Well, as to WiFi, it might laso be possible so that you could catch a public hotspot through the window.
My brother who lives and works in Wrocław told me recently that they were waiting for a cable internet connection in their office and, until the cable would be connected, they catch the signal from a public hotspot and share it in the office network .
Destroying a hotel phone is really not a good idea . Moreover, if the hotel surcharge were about 100% or more (but I doubt it) and you have a HSCSD capable phone, you might consider using Sami Swoi HSCSD at 0.24 PLN/min (speed up to 43.2 kb/sec).

[Asick]

Originally Posted by Przemolog

they were waiting for a cable internet connection in their office and, until the cable would be connected, they catch the signal from a public hotspot and share it in the office network .

What a nice situation! Don't they often allow any connections from aside? This is strange for me, here are some home or office WiFi nets too (I see at least one except of my own at home, for example), but it's usually WEP encrypted and/or MAC address filter blocked.

Originally Posted by Przemolog

Moreover, if the hotel surcharge were about 100% or more (but I doubt it) and you have a HSCSD capable phone, you might consider using Sami Swoi HSCSD at 0.24 PLN/min (speed up to 43.2 kb/sec)

I have at least one HSCSD compatible phone , so this might be useful too. Anyway, dialup is more easy to set up etc., you just plug in your notebook and dial. Also, it's a bit more speedy if your phone line is clean enough.

By the way, it seems I'll arrive on 29th at Warszawa Centralna railway station and will have some free time there. As I can see, there's a Plus Salon Firmowy at Al. Jerozolimskie 65/79, which is in fact right opposite of the railway station. However, I see the huge Mariott/LOT skyscraper is located at this address too. Is this information correct? Have you ever been at this Salon? Where is it actually?

[Motel75]

:By the way, it seems I'll arrive on 29th at Warszawa Centralna railway station and will have some free time there.

Don't, the station is horrible and will hopefully be demolished in the next few years (although it has some fun shops in the basement). If you really have time on your hands, go to the old town (15 minutes walk) or go up the PKiN and enjoy the view.

:As I can see, there's a Plus Salon Firmowy at Al. Jerozolimskie 65/79, which is in fact right opposite of the railway station. However, I see the huge Mariott/LOT skyscraper is located at this address too.

It's in the shopping center underneath the tower. Go through the underpass from the station to get there. Should be easy.

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by Motel75

:By the way, it seems I'll arrive on 29th at Warszawa Centralna railway station and will have some free time there.

Don't, the station is horrible and will hopefully be demolished in the next few years (although it has some fun shops in the basement).

In fact, there are worse one but, at least in theory, it's the "country's main station" and should be better.

Originally Posted by Motel75

If you really have time on your hands, go to the old town (15 minutes walk)

Old Town is more than 15 minutes walk, especially with luggage.

Originally Posted by Motel75

or go up the PKiN and enjoy the view.

PKiN is Warsaw's tallest skyscraper built 1952-1955 as a "gift of the USSR for Poland". It's similar to its "brothers" in Moscow (like Lomonosov University) - I don't think it's a big attraction for a Russian . And the ticket costs 20 PLN (over 5 euro, http://www.pkin.pl/taras_widokowy/) - I think it's not worth the price unless the weather is perfect. Moreover, the day is short now...

Originally Posted by Motel75

:As I can see, there's a Plus Salon Firmowy at Al. Jerozolimskie 65/79, which is in fact right opposite of the railway station. However, I see the huge Mariott/LOT skyscraper is located at this address too.

It's in the shopping center underneath the tower. Go through the underpass from the station to get there. Should be easy.

Yes, a few minute walk. And they surely accept Visa, Visa Electron, MasterCard and Maestro cards (just in case if you didn't have Polish cash yet).

[Asick]

Originally Posted by Przemolog

In fact, there are worse one but, at least in theory, it's the "country's main station" and should be better.

Why don't you like it so much? It has tracks hidden under the ground, which is not that bad itself, while other railway stations occupy much space around because of the tracks. Honestly, I almost don't remember Warszawa Centralna, but it didn't look THAT horrible for me.

Originally Posted by Przemolog

Old Town is more than 15 minutes walk, especially with luggage.

Well, how do you call it? Let me recollect... Przechowanie bagazy? I believe it should be at the station. Anyway, I visited Warszawa 4 or 5 times in 90s so I actually know how to go to the Old Town and for how long. I guess Old Town is a good idea waiting for a connection to the Krakow express, I'll have 4-5 free hours there.

Originally Posted by Przemolog

PKiN is Warsaw's tallest skyscraper built 1952-1955 as a "gift of the USSR for Poland". It's similar to its "brothers" in Moscow (like Lomonosov University) - I don't think it's a big attraction for a Russian .

Yeah, it's that old 'Stalinist' architecture that I'm used to. We have no such buildings in St.Petersburg (just some lower and 'normal' Stalinist buildings), but Moscow has enough. Have Poles ever considered the idea of demolishing this building?

Originally Posted by Przemolog

Yes, a few minute walk. And they surely accept Visa, Visa Electron, MasterCard and Maestro cards (just in case if you didn't have Polish cash yet).

Oh, VISA/MC is a great idea, I prefer it over cash. Nevertheless, I believe a KANTOR will be near too.

[Motel75]

Old Town is more than 15 minutes walk, especially with luggage.

True, but you can lock away the luggage as described (instructions in Russian as well). While the Old Town is itself more than 15 minutes away, the "interesting bit" of Warsaw surrounding the Old Town is less than 15 min away (Marszalkowska, Nowy Swiat, Krakowskie Przedmiescie, etc.). Anyway, if we said "Go to the Old Town, it's only a 25 minute walk" he might stay in the station after all...

PKiN is Warsaw's tallest skyscraper built 1952-1955 as a "gift of the USSR for Poland". It's similar to its "brothers" in Moscow (like Lomonosov University) - I don't think it's a big attraction for a Russian .

And, as often said, it's got a great view, because it's the one place in Warsaw where you can't see PKiN! But you're right about the price being too high.

But back to mobile phones and Wa-wa Centralna. There are several little shops in the lower level, particularly on the north-east side of the station, that sell SIM cards and the like. I don't think there's really anything there that Asick might need after the visit to the Plus store, but if anyone wants to collect all the prepaid SIMs in a hurry, that would be a place to start...

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by Asick

What a nice situation! Don't they often allow any connections from aside? This is strange for me, here are some home or office WiFi nets too (I see at least one except of my own at home, for example), but it's usually WEP encrypted and/or MAC address filter blocked.

It's just a free public hotspot for tourists so that they could use their laptops, palmtops ot wifi phones