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davidtheprof 04-01-2014 14:04
thanks, actually been on T-Mob for years, but would need to pay hefty fee to go to "simple choice" plan before 2 yr contract is up... The new plan kicks in next week, I'll try on next trip. But I'll miss the SIM card fun!

Do you have experience with T-Mob? data is meant to be very slow, not sure if adequate for maps, weather, etc. And I would still want to give local folks in EU a UK number, so I'd use a Piranha SIM to forward to my US number.

UKSTEVE 04-01-2014 16:41
I have a EuropaSIM (Voda Italy repackage) which gives me 500MB a day across Europe for 3 euros.

Interestingly on a trip to Germany last year I was only able to get on to 2.5G services, but the MiFi whirred along at 100Kbps - more than enough for most email, and light Web surfing.

+Steve :)

snidely 05-01-2014 07:16
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidtheprof (Post 44921)
thanks, actually been on T-Mob for years, but would need to pay hefty fee to go to "simple choice" plan before 2 yr contract is up... The new plan kicks in next week, I'll try on next trip. But I'll miss the SIM card fun!

Do you have experience with T-Mob? data is meant to be very slow, not sure if adequate for maps, weather, etc. And I would still want to give local folks in EU a UK number, so I'd use a Piranha SIM to forward to my US number.
Several of us made use of the incl intl roaming right after it went into effect when we were in China for a wedding end of Oct. for a week and then stopped in Hong Kong for 4 days. There were 5 or 6 of us w. T-Mobile phones while in China. A speed test I did was exactly the 128kbs they advertised it would be. Email, Google Maps worked fine. Even gave traffic conditions like at home! I did a test of Pandora music for 15 minutes - didn't miss a beat. Listened to audio streaming of a college football game for 3 hours - perfect clarity. Wife even did her Facebook thing. AND, yes, we weren't blocked by the great Chinese (internet) Wall. Using TM's server seemed to avoid all that.
Maps probably did load about 30-45 seconds longer than usual - but once you have the area maps in, any minor updating that needs to be done is quick as you move about the same city. Wife didn't complain about Facebook. Voice and text worked perfectly - both locally and back to U.S.
We noticed no real problem looking up weather.

davidtheprof 05-01-2014 14:57
thanks, good to hear you had positive experience, (with phone and wedding!)
this writer had more trouble with data speeds http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebe...-game-changer/
for maps, can pre-download google map areas, and I use OsmAnd+ for travel, uses pre-downloaded maps.

gkeeper 05-01-2014 19:16
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidtheprof (Post 44901)
just back from Austria, UK, and Canada.
I really want to like Piranha, best rates, UK/US numbers included free, the VOIP integration with same numbers....
BUT: data does not always work reliably, seems to come in and out. The selection of carriers seems somewhat random, in Austria, I was sometimes on a carrier that allowed direct dial, sometimes not (A1) and carriers have significant differences in phone and data charges. The callback system worked OK in UK, but not in Austria at all.

Before I left, I asked for UK number on SIM to be primary, so that people could call me back on local number, but then texts didn't work at all, in or out. (customer service did warn me this might be a problem, but it really needs fixing!).

Wife was using UK Orange SIM card, and no problems, but they don't have good PAYG bundles for EU. Also used Truphone as backup.
Hi David,
I was in Sweden over the Xmas break and had the same issue where the Sim was changing networks. On the first day I found HG3 to be very good on both Voice and Data and I personally preferred the direct dial, which was a little more expensive but worth it (£0.02 per minute more), as reported the Sim did change networks a few times, presumably this was down to dominant network coverage.
I then manually selected 3HG and turned off auto search, the rest of my trip was hassle free and it stayed on network throughout. On my departure i put handset back onto auto roam for next stop. I am using an iPhone 5. Hope this helps.

Happy new Year to all. GK

davidtheprof 06-01-2014 03:16
sometimes I tried manually selecting a specific network, but even when that worked (far from every time), there were long periods with no data - and I'd try the network that my wife's phone with UK Orange sim card was connected to, so I knew there was phone and data signal in the area.
I hear Piranha is rolling out some upgraded sim cards (I was asked to test-drive one, but didn't want to risk it just before traveling). Maybe these will fix some of the issues.

rfranzq 05-02-2014 22:54
Lower USA rates [on T-Mobile] & Mexico too!
 
Lower USA rates on T-Mobile. Matches AT&T data rate at $0.15/MB.

Quote:
Effective immediately we have made major call rate reduction while roaming in Mexico and the USA.
Please use our RATE CALCULATOR found here to view the new costs.
If you are in either one of these locations please power off your hand set and reboot.
This will allow the new changes to take effect and you to benefit from the new prices.
Regards Piranha Mobile Ltd
Administration Team

Stu 06-02-2014 03:00
Mexico looks like pretty good:


http://www.piranha-mobile.com/index....rican%20Dollar

9 cents a minute inbound on Movistar. I wish they had Telcel, but beggars can't be choosers.

rfranzq 06-02-2014 03:26
more Mexico
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu (Post 45093)
Mexico looks like pretty good: 9 cents a minute inbound on Movistar. I wish they had Telcel, but beggars can't be choosers.
18 cents to call US from Mexico. Both are better than AT&T GoPhones 25 cents which has been a good & easy choice for Americans.
What do Mexican SIM cards cost to call Mexico and the US,
let alone receive calls. With Piranha Mexico to Mexico mobile and landline is 24 cents,

gkeeper 19-02-2014 09:41
Latest update sent from Piranha. I hope it lasts.:)

" As from today, Piranha reduces Data rates in Malaysia:>)"

fsotirop 19-02-2014 11:50
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkeeper (Post 45181)
Latest update sent from Piranha. I hope it lasts.:)

" As from today, Piranha reduces Data rates in Malaysia:>)"
Piranha has a very aggressive data pricing policy lately.
the only disadvantage is the billing increment (minimum charge), that's per 100kb, instead of 10kb of most international simcards or even per 1kb within EU.

gkeeper 19-02-2014 13:19
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 45182)
Piranha has a very aggressive data pricing policy lately.
the only disadvantage is the billing increment (minimum charge), that's per 100kb, instead of 10kb of most international simcards or even per 1kb within EU.
I would still much rather pay 10p-20p per Mb on 100kb increments than 40p-50p per Mb with 1-10kb increments, mathematically not much of a disadvantage.:)

fsotirop 19-02-2014 14:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkeeper (Post 45183)
I would still much rather pay 10p-20p per Mb on 100kb increments than 40p-50p per Mb with 1-10kb increments, mathematically not much of a disadvantage.:)
for small data sessions (eg email checking) you can end up paying more

gkeeper 19-02-2014 18:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 45184)
for small data sessions (eg email checking) you can end up paying more
I have to disagree, the maths do not support the argument. An average email including headers etc uses approx 50/75kb. So based on this, 1 email = 50/75kb @ 10p per MB with 100kb increments = 1p or 40p per Mb based on 10 kb increments = approx 2/3p.

fsotirop 20-02-2014 15:19
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkeeper (Post 45188)
I have to disagree, the maths do not support the argument. An average email including headers etc uses approx 50/75kb. So based on this, 1 email = 50/75kb @ 10p per MB with 100kb increments = 1p or 40p per Mb based on 10 kb increments = approx 2/3p.
most simcards (travelsim, camel, xxsim, airbalticcard etc) for EU roaming charge 0.39eurocents/mb billing per 1kb ... not 40british-pence per mb as you mention

they also have data bundles availiable.

gkeeper 20-02-2014 17:42
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 45191)
most simcards (travelsim, camel, xxsim, airbalticcard etc) for EU roaming charge 0.39eurocents/mb billing per 1kb ... not 40british-pence per mb as you mention

they also have data bundles availiable.
0.39 Euro cents or £0.40 still mathematically more expensive and bundles are use it or lose it. its all about how much you use and as i have already pointed out the standard email is 50kb-75kb. I am happy leaving my data on knowing that worst case it will costs me £0.10 or £0.20 per Mb when travailing in the EU. and much cheaper outside of EU than the companies you have mentioned, but everyone to his own. My original point was they seem to be getting some very good deals in and outside of EU.

fsotirop 20-02-2014 20:13
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkeeper (Post 45192)
0.39 Euro cents or £0.40 still mathematically more expensive and bundles are use it or lose it. its all about how much you use and as i have already pointed out the standard email is 50kb-75kb. I am happy leaving my data on knowing that worst case it will costs me £0.10 or £0.20 per Mb when travailing in the EU. and much cheaper outside of EU than the companies you have mentioned, but everyone to his own. My original point was they seem to be getting some very good deals in and outside of EU.
for EU data roaming (including Turkey, Switzerland and Albania) the best current solution is europasim (vodafone italy sim), 500mb/day for 3euro.
even if if you exceed the 500mb you aren't charged, you simply get lower browsing speed.

except the 500mb, you also get 25min. of outgoing calls & 25min. for incoming calls, plus SMS.

gkeeper 20-02-2014 20:25
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 45193)
for EU data roaming (including Turkey, Switzerland and Albania) the best current solution is europasim (vodafone italy sim), 500mb/day for 3euro.
even if if you exceed the 500mb you aren't charged, you simply get lower browsing speed.

except the 500mb, you also get 25min. of outgoing calls & 25min. for incoming calls, plus SMS.
Agreed Europasim Card is best solution for Europe. Unfortunately most of my travel is outside of the EU.

Sophia 22-02-2014 00:21
For Canada I don't think you can do much better than Piranha. In fact somebody in my family uses it now as their main cell phone. Reason is the top up requirement (none) compared to the $100 top up per year of most Canadian cell providers.

Calls are very reasonably priced, $0.22 per minute Canada wide (again, most Canadian prepaid providers easily ask twice that).
Text $0.15 (Canadian providers: $0.50 per text)
Data is $0.37 per MB. If you don't want a data add-on with a fixed amount, the only prepaid provider Telus offers ppu data of $2.00 per MB. Granted, that is not in 100kb increments like Piranha.

I can't fault Piranha in any way though and of all the prepaid international SIMs I tried, it's the only one I kept. For the 2 countries I frequent regularly (USA and NL), I bought a local SIM (T-Mobile and Simyo, respectively) and in Canada I use Koodo prepaid.

But for extremely light users such as said relative, Piranha is actually a good local alternative here!

Bossman 22-02-2014 01:31
I hope she has a backup. Piranha may be all good for now. However, from experience, a lot of these companies come and go. As I posted in another thread, a year ago when I was Lagos, Nigeria, Piranha was useless. If it finally connects to the network, it shows emergency calls only. Thank God for my Ekit sim. I still have Piranha, and will give it another shot when I am back in Nigeria next month. At least to try to use up my credit.

If Piranha works for you, good then. However, always have a backup plan.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 45196)
In fact somebody in my family uses it now as their main cell phone.

Sophia 22-02-2014 03:21
Oh I agree with you Bossman. NEVER put more than the minimum top up amount on any of those cards, believe me I learned that the hard way (find my Celltrek / Nexus One drama thread right here in these forums) :chair:

peterdoo 22-02-2014 17:00
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkeeper (Post 45192)
0.39 Euro cents or £0.40 still mathematically more expensive and bundles are use it or lose it. its all about how much you use and as i have already pointed out the standard email is 50kb-75kb. I am happy leaving my data on knowing that worst case it will costs me £0.10 or £0.20 per Mb when travailing in the EU. and much cheaper outside of EU than the companies you have mentioned, but everyone to his own. My original point was they seem to be getting some very good deals in and outside of EU.
When going to a hotel with WiFi I normally use it as well as other free WiFi spots available (airports, shopping malls,...). With mobile data switched on constantly, this causes me 10 or more reconnects a day (room->breakfast & return, entering/leaving hotel...). Each connection change from mobile data to WiFi terminates a charging block. With charging blocks of 100kB this causes me 1 MB of data to be charged even if no data has been transfered in the sessions. Not really a problem for me in the EU with today's low per MB prices.

Sophia 22-02-2014 19:54
I do however think they might benefit from a spell checker, just received this trust inspiring mail:

Quote:
Have you joind Piranha Mobile on facebook and twitter

Hi Sophia

We are asking all our users to visit and Like our facebook and follow us on twitter.

We are regualy posting news and information relateing to Piranha Mobile and think you will benfit from linking to us.

Take a momment to use the links at the top of this email to join us.

Thanks in advance



Piranha Mobile Admin Team
:eek:

PSIM 22-02-2014 20:14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 45201)
I do however think they might benefit from a spell checker, just received this trust inspiring mail:



:eek:
Quite right, staff should have used spell check, draft was sent out in error :chair:

PSIM

Sophia 23-02-2014 01:01
Hahaha! Actually it gave me a good giggle, it was like reading one of those "if you can read this" jokes.

All jokes aside I do like Piranha and it's comforting to see you got in this thread on the same day :evil:

PSIM 23-02-2014 08:30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 45204)
Hahaha! Actually it gave me a good giggle, it was like reading one of those "if you can read this" jokes.

All jokes aside I do like Piranha and it's comforting to see you got in this thread on the same day :evil:
Thank you, it was a very unfortunate error by one of our Junior staff and they are mightily embarrassed, but sound in the knowledge that mistakes do happen and that it’s not the end of the world. :)

PSIM

fsotirop 23-02-2014 11:44
PSIM, is data coverage planned for Macedonia? according to your pricelist there is currently not availiable on both local networks (ONE & TMOBILE)

PSIM 23-02-2014 12:01
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 45206)
PSIM, is data coverage planned for Macedonia? according to your pricelist there is currently not availiable on both local networks (ONE & TMOBILE)
At present we do not have what we consider a good price for Data roaming in Macedonia, however this may change in Q2 of 2014. We will inform customers of any change to prices as and when.

PSIM

ma0941987 23-02-2014 20:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidtheprof (Post 40050)
Thought I’d set up a new thread on the Piranha mobile sim, (some previous posts in UK and Canada sub-forums) - I cannot find a general discussion forum on Piranha anywhere, and nothing on their own website! Just got a Piranha mobile sim, dual US-UK number is free, (not Estonia or Isle of Man, so cheap for people to call you), good rates in most locations, though data rates vary by provider in some countries (I've been assured that the sim will try to register on the "preferred" provider with cheaper data, we'll see..) outside UK and US, it's a call-back system, have to see how reliable that is. Piranha have the best offering for Canada that I have seen in a global sim - 22c/min within Canada or back to US, and 48c/MB for data. I’ve been testing the VOIP integration on home wifi in the US: on WIFI people are meant to be able to call you on the same number as the SIM. So far, the outgoing VOIP integration works well - if on wifi, it uses VOIP (at cheaper-than-skype rates, and decent call quality) and if not, it goes through the mobile network. The same number shows up on caller ID for recipient. Incoming VOIP is not working, it only routes through the mobile network. Customer service has not been very helpful so far, but only one round. Not sure if this is an artifact of my Samsung Vibrant.
lol................................. :)

gkeeper 23-02-2014 21:58
Quote:
Originally Posted by ma0941987 (Post 45208)
lol................................. :)

A little out of sync, quoting start of thread, only some 31 pages and 18 months ago. Still have credit, so i for one are happy they are still around.:rolleyes:

davidtheprof 24-02-2014 00:14
Yep, and as original poster, I'll be trusting Piranha for trip to UK Wed (though also going to try out the TMob US global roaming network).
As I've posted before, Piranha has some issues texting and switching from US to UK primary numbers. But best rates out there.

gkeeper 11-03-2014 17:43
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsotirop (Post 45182)
Piranha has a very aggressive data pricing policy lately.
the only disadvantage is the billing increment (minimum charge), that's per 100kb, instead of 10kb of most international simcards or even per 1kb within EU.
More Aggressive data pricing, just received this message.

Piranha Mobile ‏@Piranha_Mobile 28m
Piranha significantly reduces Voice/SMS/Data rates on MTS network Russia http://www.piranha-mobile.com/international-call-rates … pic.twitter.com/lfMzHAFg8t

Sophia 19-03-2014 01:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by ma0941987 (Post 45208)
lol................................. :)
You created a whole forum account just to share that? Some people have too much time on their hands :whistling:

gkeeper 10-04-2014 13:34
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 45272)
You created a whole forum account just to share that? Some people have too much time on their hands :whistling:
Whats important to some maybe not as important to others, maybe this will be more important to you:rolleyes:, just received this message.

"As from today Piranha significantly reduces call costs in may countries with Data now billed in increments of 50kb per session.:>)"

Sophia 18-04-2014 02:11
Nice news, thanks gkeeper :D On to the 10kb increments :p Piranha is getting better and better, can't fault them in any way so far :)

davidtheprof 18-04-2014 13:15
still some reliability issues, and texting doesn't work on UK number. Needs a cleaner way for user to decide which number is primary - I'm mostly using in Europe where people want to call and text to an EU number.

Sophia 22-04-2014 00:32
I just ordered another one. My husband is now using one as his "regular phone" (he only makes calls in semi emergencies anyway) and one for me when I'm travelling, also it will be useful on our Alaska cruise to check the occasional email when we're in ports. Hope they'll stay in business for a long, long time as I have abandoned the Truphone SIM by now....

rfranzq 22-04-2014 01:38
Piranha versus Canadian Prepaid Plans
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 45420)
My husband is now using one as his "regular phone" (he only makes calls in semi emergencies anyway) and one for me when I'm travelling, also it will be useful on our Alaska cruise to check the occasional email when we're in ports. Hope they'll stay in business for a long, long time as I have abandoned the Truphone SIM by now....
How well does Piranha compare to Canadian prepaid options? Same rates from Canada to Canada and the United States.
Better expiration, I imagine.
Certainly beats AT&T and T-Mobile PAYGO rates. Callinng to the USA from Canada:: AT&T's rate of 39¢ per minute and T-Mobile's rate of $0.59 / min.

Sophia 22-04-2014 02:37
Prepaid rates in Canada are around $0.25/min and $10 per 100MB on most plans. But he is such a terribly light user, that this is overkill for him... Telus is the only provider to offer pay per use data at $2 per MB and local calls are $0.30, LD $0.70.

This means that Piranha is actually cheaper considering the nationwide fee and per MB usage... and yes the no top up requirement (Telus has $100 per year or $10 per month as an absolute minimum) made it an easy choice :) He can now check the very occasional email or make the odd call which is all he needs!

rfranzq 22-04-2014 03:04
Canadian number with Piranha?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophia (Post 45424)
This means that Piranha is actually cheaper
Does he have a Canadian number with Piranha or just does not need one?
Do you happen to know what Piranha charges for a Canadian number?


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