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snidely 30-05-2006 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by cizake

Like I wrote in an earlier post, we will soon offer a larger choice of DIDs including 60 different US area codes.

If you need a specific number not yet available on the website please email me and I will see what we can do.

1. I am ready to order. If possible, would like a 510 number, preferable designated by phone carriers as "Oakland-Piedmont" exchange area - but any Oakland or Berkeley exchange would work almost as well. If you can't do this now, I would like to "reserve" the possibility of changing numbers later. (Whatever number I am assigned would only be used by me anyway.)

2. We all should remember that not every product will suit every person. Eg. Many here are satisfied w. Riiing/United Mobile. It didn't work for my needs. My main needs are a seamless way of getting incoming calls AND a functional VM system. Outgoing calls are important, but secondary. Eg. A Toyota may have some features/design not offered by Honda and vice-versa. Everyone has individual tastes and requirements.

3. I would like to take credit for referring you (Yackie person) to this helpful site. Remember that users here are trying to be "constructively critical".

4. I realize that early users of a product are really beta testers. As such, i wouldn't/won't be publically critical before reporting any glitches to Yackie support.

5. Sales sugggestion: How about offering a "special rate" to anyone who signs up via this web site? Even a 10% discount would help - and word would get around to order via www.prepaidgsm.net. I assume this could be structured so the "site" here gets a commission. This would be a good way to quickly get knowlegeable users on the system before the "retail buyers" come along.

...mike
email mike thaler at gmail . com (Close up the spaces<G>)

P.S. I should add that altho i am an early adopter in many things electonic, i am not a techie - like some here. I don't do SMS. I don't tie a computer to a cel phone. I hardly know what a Blackberry is. I DO use tons of minutes on a cel phone at home and a fairly modest amount on the road.

cizake 31-05-2006 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely
1. I am ready to order. If possible, would like a 510 number, preferable designated by phone carriers as "Oakland-Piedmont" exchange area - but any Oakland or Berkeley exchange would work almost as well. If you can't do this now, I would like to "reserve" the possibility of changing numbers later. (Whatever number I am assigned would only be used by me anyway.)

No problem, we have 510 numbers 'California: Oakland; East Bay'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely
3. I would like to take credit for referring you (Yackie person) to this helpful site. Remember that users here are trying to be "constructively critical".

I know and I am grateful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely
4. I realize that early users of a product are really beta testers. As such, i wouldn't/won't be publically critical before reporting any glitches to Yackie support.

Fair.

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely
5. Sales sugggestion: How about offering a "special rate" to anyone who signs up via this web site? Even a 10% discount would help - and word would get around to order via www.prepaidgsm.net. I assume this could be structured so the "site" here gets a commission. This would be a good way to quickly get knowlegeable users on the system before the "retail buyers" come along.

You've got mail (PM)


Effendi 31-05-2006 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely
5. Sales sugggestion: How about offering a "special rate" to anyone who signs up via this web site? Even a 10% discount would help - and word would get around to order via www.prepaidgsm.net. I assume this could be structured so the "site" here gets a commission. This would be a good way to quickly get knowlegeable users on the system before the "retail buyers" come along.

We are doing the affiliation program with Yackie as well as we did with UM, Travelsim and Mobal. For the discount you have to ask Yackie, of course it would be great both for our users (you and me) and for the site. :beer:

Stu 31-05-2006 18:36

One problem about Yackie is the fact that it does not have have roaming in most of Arabia. I presume this is due to the Israeli origin of the SIM.

snidely 31-05-2006 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu
One problem about Yackie is the fact that it does not have have roaming in most of Arabia. I presume this is due to the Israeli origin of the SIM.

Good guess, Stu<G> I hadn't noticed. They sure have a LOT of countries, tho, that others don't have. They seem to have virtually every Latin America country, Nz (which UM didn't have - at least last year) Also seem to cover virtually all of Africa.
They do have Jordan, Egypt and Morocco - all arab countries that recognize Israel. And they have Mexico, which I think some of the others didn't/don't have. That could be a big seller for Yackie for U.S. customers. They charge 24? for incoming - less than the 79? i believe Cingular charges and much less than the $1.49 that T-Mobile charges. (Even my grandfathered T-M rates are about $1 as i recall.)
An aside, prepaid in Mexico seems to be more expensive than roaming via Cingular last time i checked!

Stu - As i recall, you also had/have T-Mobiles old rates of 29? for incoming in many countries, including Israel.


...mike

cizake 31-05-2006 20:32

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Originally Posted by Stu
One problem about Yackie is the fact that it does not have have roaming in most of Arabia. I presume this is due to the Israeli origin of the SIM.

There are few arab countries in our list of roaming coutries :

Afghanistan
Egypt
Morocco
Iraq
Jordan

but end of June we will add more destinations such as :

Algeria
Tunisia
Saudia Arabia
Lebanon
Koweit
Bahrein
Libya

we are working on our roaming list to provide the most complete coverage.

dg7feq 31-05-2006 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by cizake
but end of June we will add more destinations such as :

Algeria
Tunisia
Saudia Arabia
Lebanon
Koweit
Bahrein
Libya

good news.
i just talked with a customer of us today who spent 900 euro in saudi arabia last month... he'll be pleased to get a better tariff for his next business trip ;)

Chris

Bossman 31-05-2006 21:13

Having a US # is definitely a big plus. I am assuming CBW can be used just like we do with UM. If I am reading CBW's rate correctly, it's 0.08. So, that will bring outgoing calls to 0.32(.24+.08). Assuming incoming calls are 0.24.

Anything will beat Mexico's prepaid rates. It's so damn expensive!

Przemolog 31-05-2006 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossman
Having a US # is definitely a big plus. I am assuming CBW can be used just like we do with UM. If I am reading CBW's rate correctly, it's 0.08. So, that will bring outgoing calls to 0.32(.24+.08). Assuming incoming calls are 0.24.

Since there is usually at least 25 cents difference between the incoming and outgoing rate, there's a "place" for using a callback service based in any of the countries in which Yackie landlines are available. However, I don't think if it's kind to Cizake to mention about such cost-cutting opportunities in this thread :)

BTW, another question to Cizake.
I think that each international prepaid should be rechargeable directly from the phone because sometimes it may be difficult ot even impossible to make an online recharge when credit is running out. I mean charging a credit card by using a USSD code, an SMS or DTMF. Of course for fraud protection reasons such transactions might be restricted e.g. at most 5 times a month and no more that $50 at once. Do you think about a solution like this?

TheMadBrewer 01-06-2006 03:30

I think I would be very interested when you get area code 310 numbers (could make do with 323 or 213).

I tend to use my mobile in two ways: One for clients to reach me while I am traveling in Europe. And second to make calls back to the US when I don't have broadband internet access (then I use VOIPBuster). Third on the list is for locals to reach me (but a distant third -- most will SMS).

For the first I use a CBW 800 number (well, 866). If I am in Switzerland or Germany (where I have national SIMs) I usually fwd to that number, even though it is more expensive, it tends to be more reliable. If I'm elsewhere, I fwd to my UM SIM. I have one of those do-hickies that lets me have two SIMs in the phone (though of course only 1 is active at a time) so its no big deal to switch over to the UM one to make a call with CBW.

Anyway, the point of this long ramble is having a US number (in my area code) would be of great value. Even better would be when/if I could also get a German number that would also fwd to the same SIM -- then I'd be in heaven. :)

snidely 01-06-2006 04:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer
I think I would be very interested when you get area code 310 numbers (could make do with 323 or 213).

See his reply to me above where he said he could give me a 510 (Oakland) number. (So far nothing but Ohio numbers show on the web site.) I'm sure if they have Okld. numbers - they would have L.A. numbers for sure!
BTW, both the 310 and 323 a/c cover a big area. As i recall, you could have a 323 exchange that would be far enuf away fm. another 323 exchange to incur a LD toll. Make sure, if you have a choice, to pick an exchange that is toll free from your office or home.

I have sent in my order but asked that it be held until a "deal" is worked out with the site managers here.

...mike

Stu 01-06-2006 04:51

You can get a free German DID from Sipbroker and/or Sipgate.de. You can setup a free call director at pabx.com or you can use voxalot to consolidate various inbound and outbound DIDs and setup up a call forward using your 20 hours of minutes, but I would presume that the numbers that jackiemobile is providing are voip based.

Are they sip addressable?

Stu

snidely 01-06-2006 05:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu
You can get a free German DID from Sipbroker and/or Sipgate.de. You can setup a free call director at pabx.com or you can use voxalot to consolidate various inbound and outbound DIDs and setup up a call forward using your 20 hours of minutes, but I would presume that the numbers that jackiemobile is providing are voip based.

Are they sip addressable?

Stu

O.K. Education time for me. I think i know what DID is = Direct Inward Dial. What is "SIP"?

Thanks.

...mike

TheMadBrewer 01-06-2006 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely
What is "SIP"?

Session Initiation Protocol, but I had to go to wikipedia to find that out :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session...ation_Protocol

cizake 01-06-2006 06:17

For DIDs or Virtual numbers, Yackie Mobile will soon provide a list of available numbers online.

We can provide German DID as well as 47 other destinations.

US, UK, FR and few other DID are quite cheap. This is why, we offer *one* free number assigned to each SIM card.

For German, Russian or Mexican numbers prices are *super* high. Could be $xx per month for some exotic DID.

Therefore, we will certainly provide a large choice of DID we offer for *free* and a secondary list of premium DID at cost.

BTW, DIDs are not identical. Some are bad - quality, some are not working regularly. We ONLY provide DID bought from national operator.

Quote:

You can get a free German DID from Sipbroker and/or Sipgate.de. You can setup a free call director at pabx.com or you can use voxalot to consolidate various inbound and outbound DIDs and setup up a call forward using your 20 hours of minutes, but I would presume that the numbers that jackiemobile is providing are voip based.

Are they sip addressable?

This route will certainly cause latency and poor quality.

No you cannot use the sim SIP address. :(

As for CBW... :censored:


Effendi 01-06-2006 07:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by cizake
US, UK, FR and few other DID are quite cheap. This is why, we offer *one* free number assigned to each SIM card.

For German, Russian or Mexican numbers prices are *super* high. Could be $xx per month for some exotic DID.

I suppose Italian DIDs are super-extra-expensive... :(

snidely 01-06-2006 08:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by cizake
For DIDs or Virtual numbers, Yackie Mobile will soon provide a list of available numbers online.

We can provide German DID as well as 47 other destinations.

US, UK, FR and few other DID are quite cheap. This is why, we offer *one* free number assigned to each SIM card.

For German, Russian or Mexican numbers prices are *super* high. Could be $xx per month for some exotic DID.

I assume from all this it would be technically possible for you to offer an "extra" virtual number for some added cost the way most VOIP LD purveyors do. Eg. You could have 2 U.S. or a U.S. and a U.K. number both pointed at the same SIM.

Cisake - One minor "error" on your FAQ page: Many of the Americas, (north and south) really require a phone to have the ability to operate on the 850 band for full coverage. Panama only has 850 service. Don't know if there are others w. only 850. I know in Argentina there are many areas where there seems to have been 850 only coverage.
Your web site says a tri-band 900/1800/1900 phone will suffice. You probably should say that "the user should make sure the phone that will be used will operate on the frequencies in use in the countries being visited. A quad band phone, 850/900/1800/1900 will operate in all areas where YackieMobile provides service."

There are a couple of countries w. 1800 service only. Costa Rica is one.

...mike

Przemolog 01-06-2006 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by cizake
For DIDs or Virtual numbers, Yackie Mobile will soon provide a list of available numbers online.

We can provide German DID as well as 47 other destinations.

Is Poland included in those 47 countries, and at what price?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cizake
As for CBW... :censored:

I understand you reaction, but the larger is the diifference between incoming and outgoing rates and the larger are outgoing rates (in the "absolute" values), using callback services brings more savings....
But I don't suggest raising Yackie incoming rates to 49 cents, of course ;)

snidely 01-06-2006 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
I understand you reaction, but the larger is the diifference between incoming and outgoing rates and the larger are outgoing rates (in the "absolute" values), using callback services brings more savings....

Users use of phones vary when traveling. In my case, it is needed for incoming a majority of the time. Most of the outgoing would be to a few business associates. In those cases i would simply spend the 49? to call them and have them call me back. It wouldn't be worth it to save a quarter to subscribe to CBW. (Actually the savings would be 25? less the 8? charged by CBW = 17?.) I assume there is a monthly fee as well.

MATHA531 01-06-2006 16:43

Hate to break the news to you...CBW has no monthly fee.

cizake 01-06-2006 17:03

I was kiddin' about CBW. We live in a free world.

As for Italian DID, they are not so expensive.

We have milano DID in stock :thumbup: - landline of course...

cizake 01-06-2006 17:18

Poland DID also in stock

Area Codes LandLines
(22) Warszawa
(61) Poznan
(71) Wroclaw

I think that like Italian DIDs, they will be offered as a paying option. I cannot tell you a price now, we are working on a pricing list.

User will be able to add several DIDs assigned to one SIM card. B)

cizake 01-06-2006 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely
Cisake - One minor "error" on your FAQ page: Many of the Americas, (north and south) really require a phone to have the ability to operate on the 850 band for full coverage. Panama only has 850 service. Don't know if there are others w. only 850. I know in Argentina there are many areas where there seems to have been 850 only coverage.
Your web site says a tri-band 900/1800/1900 phone will suffice. You probably should say that "the user should make sure the phone that will be used will operate on the frequencies in use in the countries being visited. A quad band phone, 850/900/1800/1900 will operate in all areas where YackieMobile provides service."

I will make appropriate changes.

Thanks

Przemolog 01-06-2006 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by cizake
Poland DID also in stock

Area Codes LandLines
(22) Warszawa
(61) Poznan
(71) Wroclaw

I think that like Italian DIDs, they will be offered as a paying option. I cannot tell you a price now, we are working on a pricing list.

Thanks. I don't live in any of the numbering zones in Poland you have mentioned, but it's OK that they are available at all :). I think that they shouldn't be more expensive than 3-5$ a month (the fee for a SkypeIn number, local VoIP companies offer landline numers in Poland at lower rate or even for free) .
As for roaming in Europe Yackiemobile beats almost all prepaid and postpaid roaming tariffs offered currently by the Polish mobile operators....

cizake 01-06-2006 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
Thanks. I don't live in any of the numbering zones in Poland you have mentioned, but it's OK that they are available at all :). I think that they shouldn't be more expensive than 3-5$ a month (the fee for a SkypeIn number, local VoIP companies offer landline numers in Poland at lower rate or even for free) .

Yes. Cost of the number will be in the range you pointed out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
As for roaming in Europe Yackiemobile beats almost all prepaid and postpaid roaming tariffs offered currently by the Polish mobile operators....

Thanks ;)

Moxie990 06-06-2006 18:37

Japan isn't listed as one of the serviced countries ... is this going to be possible in the future if you have aphone capable of working there?

no biggie if not, but I'm going to be there for a week and it would be nice to only get one international sim for my whole trip (which lands me in 11 different countries) - Or i might just forego talking on the phone while in Japan as to avoid having to get another sim card.

dg7feq 06-06-2006 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by cizake
We can provide German DID as well as 47 other destinations.

US, UK, FR and few other DID are quite cheap. This is why, we offer *one* free number assigned to each SIM card.

For German, Russian or Mexican numbers prices are *super* high. Could be $xx per month for some exotic DID.

Hello, can you make me a offer with a german number?
And is there any chance you have thai numbers avilable?

Chris

prion 06-06-2006 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxie990
Japan isn't listed as one of the serviced countries ... is this going to be possible in the future if you have aphone capable of working there?

no biggie if not, but I'm going to be there for a week and it would be nice to only get one international sim for my whole trip (which lands me in 11 different countries) - Or i might just forego talking on the phone while in Japan as to avoid having to get another sim card.

Travelsim works in Japan and has free incoming. Check your other destinasions and see if it works there as well....

Moxie990 06-06-2006 20:07

i looked into travelSim .. it fails to work in Hong Kong, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Myanmar though ... well nothing really works in Myanmar, and i dont want to call from there either, so thats a moot point. they also have crazy high prices in India 3.00 incomming 4.00 outgoing



Przemolog 06-06-2006 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxie990
they also have crazy high prices in India 3.00 incomming 4.00 outgoing

AFAIR all international sims except for Hop and Yackie have crazy rates in India - this country seems to be very expensive when roaming....

prion 06-06-2006 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxie990
i looked into travelSim .. it fails to work in Hong Kong, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Myanmar though ... well nothing really works in Myanmar, and i dont want to call from there either, so thats a moot point. they also have crazy high prices in India 3.00 incomming 4.00 outgoing

Myanmar does not have a mobile network. They seem to have one planned, probably working only in the capital. All the other countries you mentioned, except Japan, are covered via united mobile and 09

Moxie990 07-06-2006 02:26

turns out i prolly woulnt want to make calls from myanmar anyway, or email for that matter ... the government reads all outbound emails and can listen to phone convos ... so myanmar is out of the equation how, haha

so it pretty much has come down to yackie or UM for me, which both seem like good deals ... and then which phone to buy ... which Im also not sure on ... any tips on that front?

Przemolog 07-06-2006 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by prion
Myanmar does not have a mobile network. They seem to have one planned, probably working only in the capital. All the other countries you mentioned, except Japan, are covered via united mobile and 09

Not quite "no network". On cellular-news.com I found the link to the Myanmar post/telecom website: http://www.mpt.net.mm/mobile/index.html. It seems that they have D-AMPS, CDMA and GSM. Moreover GSM is already functioning but very slight chance for roaming at any price:
<quote>
International Roaming
1.Under negotiation with AIS ( Advanced Info Service ), Thailand.
2.Under negotiation with China Mobile, China.
3.Under Negotiation with Maxxis, Malaysia.
</quote>


prion 07-06-2006 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
Not quite "no network". On cellular-news.com I found the link to the Myanmar post/telecom website: http://www.mpt.net.mm/mobile/index.html. It seems that they have D-AMPS, CDMA and GSM. Moreover GSM is already functioning but very slight chance for roaming at any price:
<quote>
International Roaming
1.Under negotiation with AIS ( Advanced Info Service ), Thailand.
2.Under negotiation with China Mobile, China.
3.Under Negotiation with Maxxis, Malaysia.
</quote>

http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/net_mmpt.shtml

and

http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/roa_mmpt.shtml

Przemolog 07-06-2006 11:32

Prion, I think that infos on operator websites are usually more up to date than those on gsmworld.com. Anyway, it doesn't solve Moxie990's main problem - no roaming possibilities with Yackie, Travelsim or any "regular" operator - only a satphone remains :(

prion 07-06-2006 12:41

Even the infos provided via the website suggest that there are no roaming possibilities at present, which is the most important, I agree with you :)

Bossman 07-06-2006 21:36

Here for the card validity, it says 1 activity every 12 months, and on the yackie FAQ it says 1 activity every 6 months. One of them has to be a typo. Does not matter much for me, since incoming/outgoing calls are pretty reasonable here in the US. It's really just clarification for others.

http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/international.html


Yackie FAQ Excerpt:

Q: When does the Yackie SIM card and airtime credit expire?
A: Your Yackie Mobile SIM card will never expire as long as the SIM card is used at least once to make or receive calls every 6 months. Airtime credit will expire after 6 months if no calls were placed or received.




Effendi 07-06-2006 21:43

We should ask cizake, but if I'm now wrong I was told directly by him about the 12 months, but I could have understood it wrong.

GadgetKen 07-06-2006 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
Prion, I think that infos on operator websites are usually more up to date than those on gsmworld.com. Anyway, it doesn't solve Moxie990's main problem - no roaming possibilities with Yackie, Travelsim or any "regular" operator - only a satphone remains :(

Roaming in Myanmar is claimed with Telestial's Passport sim card but at US$1.90/min outgoing (and. .41/min. incoming) to the US a satphone or a calling card would be cheaper per minute. Thuraya only claims coverage in western Myanmar, Globalstar shows map coverage but it's not available to North American roamers, which I think would leave Iridium or Inmarsat. If only rare travel there, probably an Iridium handset rental would make the most sense.

prion 07-06-2006 22:33

I think that this about roaming with telestial is wrong for the reasons that I and Przemolog have written


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