Anyone try Lets Go from Orange?

wco81 · 05-08-2015, 01:12

Sorry if I gave the impression that I tried Lets Go on an iPhone.

I only tried on iPad mini, where I got 4G speeds as well as tethering.

I bought the 2 GB bundle for €20 on two separate occasions and it worked well in both cases (but not so well in the mountain villages of les baux de Provence).

That's quite a jump from 1 GB to 5 GB. Hope there is some intermediate spot like 3 GB.

tux · 05-08-2015, 10:29

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Originally Posted by wco81

That's quite a jump from 1 GB to 5 GB. Hope there is some intermediate spot like 3 GB.

3GB it's 25€ for 1 month.

wolfbln · 05-08-2015, 11:23

Thanks for your replies.
That wco81 used it in an iPad mini which is a "qualified" tablet instead of an iPhone which is disqualified by Orange explains why it worked properly. And it shows how ridiculous this difference is.

All over the world operators sell data-only SIM cards aimed at tablets and modems that have or have not voice or text. Mostly, they are a bit cheaper than the data bundles for voice cards. And in most places, you can easily use them in any GSM device for data. It's very hard for an operator to enforce this distinction. Most of the time, they simply switch off voice to deter smartphone users.

These operators actually try to maintain this difference:
1.) In the US AT&T determines the "qualified device" by its IMEI no. If the tablet or modem is not recognized as such, the plan is automatically set to voice&data. But you can call customer service and have it set to a data-only plan manually.
2.) In the UK Three tries to prevent the "misuse" of their smartphone PAYG SIM which is cheaper than their Mobile Broadband PAYG SIM by TTL packet inspection. The internet is full of bypasses.
3.) Some operators may also check the mobile browser used. But they are very similar on smartphones and tablets.

If we can find out how Orange determines that a smartphone is used instead of a tablet, router or modem, we might figure out a workaround.
I don't want to question Orange's T&Cs. But according to their policy, a smartphone can't be used with their data SIM, but a mobile hotspot router (mifi) can, which can link by WIFI to the same previously banned phone. To require this intermediate just doesn't make sense to me. But Orange in France only has sometimes very strange ideas.

wolfbln · 05-08-2015, 11:36

Thanks for your replies.
That wco81 used it in an iPad mini which is a qualified tablet instead of an iPhone which is disqualified by Orange explains why it worked properly. And it shows how ridiculous this difference is.

All over the world operators sell data-only SIM cards that have or have not voice or text. Mostly, they are a bit cheaper than the data bundles for voice cards. And in most places, you can easily use them in any GSM device for data. It's very hard for an operator to make this distinction. Normally, they just shut off voice to deter smartphone users.

1.) In the US AT&T determins the "qualified device" by its IMEI no. If the tablet or modem is not recognized as such, the plan is automatically set to voice&data. But you can call customer service and have it set to a data-only plan manually.
2.) In the UK Three tries to prevent the "misuse" of their smartphone PAYG SIM which is cheaper than their Mobile Broadband PAYG by TTL packet inspection. The internet is full of bypasses. The same is true to some tethering restrictions.
3.) Some operators may also check the mobile browser used. But they are very similar on smartphones and tablets.

If we can find out how Orange determines that a smartphone is used instead of a tablet, router or modem, we might figure out a workaround.
I don't want to question Orange's T&Cs. But according to their policy, a smartphone can't be used with their data SIM, but a mobile hotspot router (mifi) can, which can link by Wifi to the same previously banned phone. To require this intermediate just doesn't make sense to me

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wco81 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 304 Join Date: 17 Jun 2007 Country:	05-08-2015, 01:12 Sorry if I gave the impression that I tried Lets Go on an iPhone. I only tried on iPad mini, where I got 4G speeds as well as tethering. I bought the 2 GB bundle for €20 on two separate occasions and it worked well in both cases (but not so well in the mountain villages of les baux de Provence). That's quite a jump from 1 GB to 5 GB. Hope there is some intermediate spot like 3 GB.

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wolfbln (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 206 Join Date: 14 Jul 2014 Country:	05-08-2015, 11:23 Thanks for your replies. That wco81 used it in an iPad mini which is a "qualified" tablet instead of an iPhone which is disqualified by Orange explains why it worked properly. And it shows how ridiculous this difference is. All over the world operators sell data-only SIM cards aimed at tablets and modems that have or have not voice or text. Mostly, they are a bit cheaper than the data bundles for voice cards. And in most places, you can easily use them in any GSM device for data. It's very hard for an operator to enforce this distinction. Most of the time, they simply switch off voice to deter smartphone users. These operators actually try to maintain this difference: 1.) In the US AT&T determines the "qualified device" by its IMEI no. If the tablet or modem is not recognized as such, the plan is automatically set to voice&data. But you can call customer service and have it set to a data-only plan manually. 2.) In the UK Three tries to prevent the "misuse" of their smartphone PAYG SIM which is cheaper than their Mobile Broadband PAYG SIM by TTL packet inspection. The internet is full of bypasses. 3.) Some operators may also check the mobile browser used. But they are very similar on smartphones and tablets. If we can find out how Orange determines that a smartphone is used instead of a tablet, router or modem, we might figure out a workaround. I don't want to question Orange's T&Cs. But according to their policy, a smartphone can't be used with their data SIM, but a mobile hotspot router (mifi) can, which can link by WIFI to the same previously banned phone. To require this intermediate just doesn't make sense to me. But Orange in France only has sometimes very strange ideas. Last edited by wolfbln; 05-08-2015 at 11:34..

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wolfbln (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 206 Join Date: 14 Jul 2014 Country:	05-08-2015, 11:36 Thanks for your replies. That wco81 used it in an iPad mini which is a qualified tablet instead of an iPhone which is disqualified by Orange explains why it worked properly. And it shows how ridiculous this difference is. All over the world operators sell data-only SIM cards that have or have not voice or text. Mostly, they are a bit cheaper than the data bundles for voice cards. And in most places, you can easily use them in any GSM device for data. It's very hard for an operator to make this distinction. Normally, they just shut off voice to deter smartphone users. 1.) In the US AT&T determins the "qualified device" by its IMEI no. If the tablet or modem is not recognized as such, the plan is automatically set to voice&data. But you can call customer service and have it set to a data-only plan manually. 2.) In the UK Three tries to prevent the "misuse" of their smartphone PAYG SIM which is cheaper than their Mobile Broadband PAYG by TTL packet inspection. The internet is full of bypasses. The same is true to some tethering restrictions. 3.) Some operators may also check the mobile browser used. But they are very similar on smartphones and tablets. If we can find out how Orange determines that a smartphone is used instead of a tablet, router or modem, we might figure out a workaround. I don't want to question Orange's T&Cs. But according to their policy, a smartphone can't be used with their data SIM, but a mobile hotspot router (mifi) can, which can link by Wifi to the same previously banned phone. To require this intermediate just doesn't make sense to me