Gt-sim ? - Page 9

Klaus Wegener · 14-12-2005, 15:29

Hello,

I am currently in Madrid with my GT-SIM. Outgoing calls work fine. I don't use my GT-SIM for incoming calls.

SMS sending is working fine, too. I do send a lot of SMS. I hope, the price of 9 cent each is true, as SMS did not appear in my bill yet. And I already sent a lot of SMS since beginning of November... Don't like this. Either they bill, or they don't bill. I don't want to pay 1000 SMS somewhen next year February...

Bill of November (got it in beginning of December) did not contain any SMS and did not contain GPRS WAP-traffic.

GPRS WAP does work fine with Movistar.

Regards,
Klaus

snidely · 24-12-2005, 06:29

Now that Kall8 is charging 92?/min. to call Riiing - just wanted to verify a few facts after reading this long thread.

1. Incoming calls are 38?/min. (Got this off their web site tonite.)
2. Outgoing to landline is 26 and cel is 38?. Does this mean to a landline/cel anywhere in the world INCLUDING the U.S.? (I know there is a surcharge when using the SIM when in the U.S.)
3. Even though I am in the U.S. I could declare my "home" country as being anywhere they have service? Say I go to France a lot, could I declare France as my home country and get incoming calls free when there?
4. Are calls made to a +44 7 number billed the same as calls to any UK mobile? That is roughly 20 to 30? from the U.S. Kall8 charges 29.
This would mean incoming would cost me 38+29 for a total of 67?. Not cheap, but w. Riings large termination charge that most LD carriers are passing on, it is better.

There haven't been any recent posts. Is VM working? I may be dense, but why are so many of you interested in having Call Forwarding working?

Thanks.

...mike

MATHA531 · 24-12-2005, 08:20

It is not necessary to find another sim to get forwarding to your riiing number. You can open up a call back account with enlinea (you may already have one) and they will provide you with a US 800 number to ring to your riiing card (pun intended) at no extra charge and since enlinea does not charge to sign up nor a monthly maintenance fee, it is an ideal situation and seems to be working at the moment (but that is always subject to change given the variable nature of internet services) and the charge is still enlinea's 12?/minute timed in 6 second intervals. Connection time is pretty good also as kall8 was no great shakes in that regard.

Incidentally it is a straight 800 number not a net2pin like cbw but you have to request it be set up by e mail, you can't set it up or change the ring to number as you can through the web site as you can with cbw.

RTuesday · 24-12-2005, 09:11

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1. Incoming calls are 38?/min. (Got this off their web site tonite.)
2. Outgoing to landline is 26 and cel is 38?. Does this mean to a landline/cel anywhere in the world INCLUDING the U.S.? (I know there is a surcharge when using the SIM when in the U.S.)

Remember these are euro cents, not US$. For calls to numbers in the US, they do charge them all at the landline rate (no easy way to tell it's a cellphone of course).

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3. Even though I am in the U.S. I could declare my "home" country as being anywhere they have service? Say I go to France a lot, could I declare France as my home country and get incoming calls free when there?

Don't know. If you ordered it for a French address while in France it would work.

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4. Are calls made to a +44 7 number billed the same as calls to any UK mobile? That is roughly 20 to 30? from the U.S. Kall8 charges 29.

Yes. I've seen one or two US companies that charge UK mobiles at a couple of different rates (a little lower for the main carriers, more for "others") although I can't find one right now. But in 99% of cases, rates for all numbers starting +44 7 are the same.

So the call cost is the same as to any UK mobile, with one exception: if you are calling from a UK mobile from within in the UK. In that case, it's considered an international call, usually a similar rate to calling Ireland.

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There haven't been any recent posts. Is VM working? I may be dense, but why are so many of you interested in having Call Forwarding working?

I initially tried it while I was in the Isle of Man and Ireland, but I'm now in the US (where it's too expensive, and I have alternatives) and Mexico (where there is no coverage). So it's gone into my sim box until I get back to Europe.

Which is why call forwarding would be handy, to be able to give the gt-sim number out as a contact number (especially as it's actually local to my home base!), but call forward to another number when I'm in the US/Mex.

Voicemail was mostly working but not 100% reliable, the SMS notifications were especially random. Haven't tried it for a while.

snidely · 24-12-2005, 20:30

Sounds like GT coould be a better deal than Riiing under a few circumstances. (Although I was just told in a forum at HoFo that Riiing's VM has been truly functional a/o Dec. 1.)
While incoming w. Riiing is "free", you can be paying a lot to call them. I doubt that Enlinea will keep their 14? rate. Like others, i had run into call delivery problems w. Kall8 to Riiing.
Since Kall8 charges 29? to a UK cel number (like GT) and GT charges about 44?US to recv. a call - the total would be just over 70?US where ever you are.
I would require a service like Kall8 or Enlinea. If Enlinea raises its rates to Riiing, that would leave no other option to use Riiing.

Not going anywhere intl. til Feb. Decisions, decisions.

Thanks for the input.

...mike

MATHA531 · 25-12-2005, 05:57

One error in your last post...enlinea rate to riiing from US is not 14?/minute...it's 12?/minute (timed in 6 second intervals BTW) and unlike cbw pin2dest 800 service, you get yourown dedicated 800 number. Hasn't changed in well over a year.

snidely · 26-12-2005, 22:43

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Originally Posted by snaimon

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Yes, if your home network is the US you will be charged Euro 0,60/min on
incomming calls.

This will be reduced in Feb. 2006 to approx Euro 0,15/min. You will then also
receive a local US phone number attached to your +447624...

This was in a post of yours a month ago. Do you know what is meant by having a "US phone number attached.....?

Przemolog · 26-12-2005, 23:31

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Originally Posted by snidely

This was in a post of yours a month ago. Do you know what is meant by having a "US phone number attached.....?

I think that you'll simply get a number like +1AAABBBBBBB and all incoming calls to this number will be forwarded to +44 7624 ..... In this way the person calling you from the US will pay a national rate and you'll pay for forwarding to your mobile phone with the UK (in fact Isle of Man) number.

snidely · 30-12-2005, 01:22

I had guessed that's what "attached" meant, but wasn't sure. I guess the key is - how much will that add to the cost of the call? If it's over 29? (Kall8's charge to a UK cel phone), it wouldn't pay.
I emailed a couple of questions to their support desk almost a week ago. (Questions about whether they have working VM and the question about an "attached" number.) Haven't had a reply.

...mike

Przemolog · 30-12-2005, 10:59

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Originally Posted by snidely

I had guessed that's what "attached" meant, but wasn't sure. I guess the key is - how much will that add to the cost of the call? If it's over 29? (Kall8's charge to a UK cel phone), it wouldn't pay.

That's a good question. Maybe they are able to make a kind of "shortcut" so that it won't be necessary to transfer each call twice over Atlantic

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Or they are just going to create "dual number" SIMs. I mean that each SIM will have both a +1 number (maybe it will be technically just a number of a US MVNO) and a +44 Manx number for worldwide use. In this way, it could make it possible to avoid "regular" transatlantic call forwarding (and its costs, of course).
But this is only what I guess/suppose - no real knowledge behind!

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Klaus Wegener (Offline) Junior Member Amateur Member Posts: 28 Join Date: 18 Oct 2005 Country:	14-12-2005, 15:29 Hello, I am currently in Madrid with my GT-SIM. Outgoing calls work fine. I don't use my GT-SIM for incoming calls. SMS sending is working fine, too. I do send a lot of SMS. I hope, the price of 9 cent each is true, as SMS did not appear in my bill yet. And I already sent a lot of SMS since beginning of November... Don't like this. Either they bill, or they don't bill. I don't want to pay 1000 SMS somewhen next year February... Bill of November (got it in beginning of December) did not contain any SMS and did not contain GPRS WAP-traffic. GPRS WAP does work fine with Movistar. Regards, Klaus

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snidely (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 451 Join Date: 09 May 2005 Location: Berkeley, California and Miami Country:	24-12-2005, 06:29 Now that Kall8 is charging 92?/min. to call Riiing - just wanted to verify a few facts after reading this long thread. 1. Incoming calls are 38?/min. (Got this off their web site tonite.) 2. Outgoing to landline is 26 and cel is 38?. Does this mean to a landline/cel anywhere in the world INCLUDING the U.S.? (I know there is a surcharge when using the SIM when in the U.S.) 3. Even though I am in the U.S. I could declare my "home" country as being anywhere they have service? Say I go to France a lot, could I declare France as my home country and get incoming calls free when there? 4. Are calls made to a +44 7 number billed the same as calls to any UK mobile? That is roughly 20 to 30? from the U.S. Kall8 charges 29. This would mean incoming would cost me 38+29 for a total of 67?. Not cheap, but w. Riings large termination charge that most LD carriers are passing on, it is better. There haven't been any recent posts. Is VM working? I may be dense, but why are so many of you interested in having Call Forwarding working? Thanks. ...mike Make use of T-M's UMA/wifi free calling from any place in the world with access to wifi. I use an LG G6, wife an S7) A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20¢/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries. My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.

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MATHA531 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 869 Join Date: 15 Oct 2004 Country:	24-12-2005, 08:20 It is not necessary to find another sim to get forwarding to your riiing number. You can open up a call back account with enlinea (you may already have one) and they will provide you with a US 800 number to ring to your riiing card (pun intended) at no extra charge and since enlinea does not charge to sign up nor a monthly maintenance fee, it is an ideal situation and seems to be working at the moment (but that is always subject to change given the variable nature of internet services) and the charge is still enlinea's 12?/minute timed in 6 second intervals. Connection time is pretty good also as kall8 was no great shakes in that regard. Incidentally it is a straight 800 number not a net2pin like cbw but you have to request it be set up by e mail, you can't set it up or change the ring to number as you can through the web site as you can with cbw.

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snidely (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 451 Join Date: 09 May 2005 Location: Berkeley, California and Miami Country:	24-12-2005, 20:30 Sounds like GT coould be a better deal than Riiing under a few circumstances. (Although I was just told in a forum at HoFo that Riiing's VM has been truly functional a/o Dec. 1.) While incoming w. Riiing is "free", you can be paying a lot to call them. I doubt that Enlinea will keep their 14? rate. Like others, i had run into call delivery problems w. Kall8 to Riiing. Since Kall8 charges 29? to a UK cel number (like GT) and GT charges about 44?US to recv. a call - the total would be just over 70?US where ever you are. I would require a service like Kall8 or Enlinea. If Enlinea raises its rates to Riiing, that would leave no other option to use Riiing. Not going anywhere intl. til Feb. Decisions, decisions. Thanks for the input. ...mike Make use of T-M's UMA/wifi free calling from any place in the world with access to wifi. I use an LG G6, wife an S7) A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20¢/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries. My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.

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MATHA531 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 869 Join Date: 15 Oct 2004 Country:	25-12-2005, 05:57 One error in your last post...enlinea rate to riiing from US is not 14?/minute...it's 12?/minute (timed in 6 second intervals BTW) and unlike cbw pin2dest 800 service, you get yourown dedicated 800 number. Hasn't changed in well over a year.

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snidely (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 451 Join Date: 09 May 2005 Location: Berkeley, California and Miami Country:	30-12-2005, 01:22 I had guessed that's what "attached" meant, but wasn't sure. I guess the key is - how much will that add to the cost of the call? If it's over 29? (Kall8's charge to a UK cel phone), it wouldn't pay. I emailed a couple of questions to their support desk almost a week ago. (Questions about whether they have working VM and the question about an "attached" number.) Haven't had a reply. ...mike Make use of T-M's UMA/wifi free calling from any place in the world with access to wifi. I use an LG G6, wife an S7) A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20¢/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries. My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.