Callkey Latest/Is there hope? [merged threads]

[prion]

Originally Posted by RTuesday

Could even be the other way round - I assume MT collected the termination fees, then passed part of them on to Callkey (maybe there were delays/disputes/fraud allegations there). AFAIK Callkey just subcontracted a number range, didn't use MT switching etc, so there's really nothing for MT to replace it with.

And since MT is part of O2 who are part of Telefonica Spain they're not the sort of comany that would want to get involved with callback, or even miss the revenue (which they may have had very little of). Looks like the Manx sims are permanently dead.

One Manx distributor is sending manx sims as replacements for the older ones that do no longer work. So I suppose this does not mean that all manx sism have ceased service

[bbob]

Prions what manx distributor are you talking about.

[prion]

Originally Posted by bbob

Prions what manx distributor are you talking about.

ekit sim card

[Alfie100]

I can tell you that Callkey and the Sim cards are definitely not dead. I have it in very good authority but cannot say more at this moment. Sorry i can't expand on this but watch this space.

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by RTuesday

Could even be the other way round - I assume MT collected the termination fees, then passed part of them on to Callkey (maybe there were delays/disputes/fraud allegations there).

OK with termination, but what about outgoing calls? Because callback was used, both "legs" are in fact outgoing calls from the operator to the both parties of the call. Since MT roaming agreements were in use, I suppose that Callkey

Originally Posted by RTuesday

AFAIK Callkey just subcontracted a number range, didn't use MT switching etc, so there's really nothing for MT to replace it with.

It's not only about the number range. As I've mentioned above, Callkey used also MT roaming agreements what means some kind of switching, too (but I have no telecom education so may be wrong)

Originally Posted by RTuesday

And since MT is part of O2 who are part of Telefonica Spain they're not the sort of comany that would want to get involved with callback, or even miss the revenue (which they may have had very little of). Looks like the Manx sims are permanently dead.

Yes, I realise that MT is a part of much larger business nowadays. But, nevertheless, they have to care about the revenues on the island, not to count on "MT size" doesn't matter within the O2 group

[VladS]

Originally Posted by prion

ekit sim card

eKit sends out Telestial Passport SIMs which are also hosted on a separate MVNO platform with Manx. Their numbering range is +44-7924-4

[andy]

Originally Posted by VladS

eKit sends out Telestial Passport SIMs which are also hosted on a separate MVNO platform with Manx. Their numbering range is +44-7924-4

It's more the other way round, that Telestial send out eKit SIMs

Or who knows, perhaps they are even the same company

[bbob]

Originally Posted by Alfie100

I can tell you that Callkey and the Sim cards are definitely not dead. I have it in very good authority but cannot say more at this moment. Sorry i can't expand on this but watch this space.

not again, new user 1 post and allready telling us, it's not dead and having good contact.

where have I seem this information before..... yes gossiproam sorry easyroam was telling us before, it's dead no it's alive but the next day it was dead again.

Like many users they have written of their manx number and have an alternative now. But maybe someone buys Callkey at a low price and will continue the service. That said, we still don't know what has happened to everyones call credit.

Is this call credit owned by callkey or is it owned by the companies that market the cards under their own names. I would guess the last but you never know.

[prion]

Originally Posted by bbob

Is this call credit owned by callkey or is it owned by the companies that market the cards under their own names. I would guess the last but you never know.

I also suppose that. All companies that have issued replacement sims have also given the credit back

[VladS]

Originally Posted by andy

It's more the other way round, that Telestial send out eKit SIMs

Telestial developed the Passport MVNO while they were still standalone.

Originally Posted by andy

Or who knows, perhaps they are even the same company

They are now.