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[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by hawkdeira

However, with roaming the things are different. So far, 3 out of 4 operators here declared their euroroaming tariffs. Plus and Play don't mention about Channel Is/IoM so they probably consider them as parts of UK. However, Era in its roaming tariffs declared those territories explicitly as non-EU (both as origin and destination of calls).

Umm, yes! The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are not in the UK and not in the EU . . .

And how about Gibraltar then? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar#Politics says:
Gibraltar is a part of the European Union, having joined under the British Treaty of Accession (1973), with exemption from some areas such as the Customs Union and Common Agricultural Policy.

Does this mean that euroroaming tariffs apply to Gibraltar?

[AndreA]

Yes, Gibraltar is surely inside eurotariff

[meir]

O2 Eurotariff

One rate for calling within EU countries.

We are offering a new tariff for favorably-priced calling in all 27 EU countries.

Calling between EU countries (including the Czech Republic) costs 13.95 CZK/min (16.60 incl. VAT). For incoming calls you pay 6.85 CZK/min (8.15 incl. VAT).

Activation

The new O2 Eurotariff can be activated from July 29, 2007 in any of the following ways:

* Corporate line 800 111 777 (*77 from your mobile)
* Business line 800 203 203 (*52 from your mobile)
* By contacting one of our business representatives
* Entrepreneurs can send an SMS with the keyword EUROTARIF to the phone number 999 111

Activation takes place one month after the customer has submitted their request for the service. After the service is launched on August 29, 2007, all customers will be able to activate O2 Eurotariff together with the O2 Roaming service.

O2 Eurotariff cannot be combined with other special roaming offers, including individual roaming conditions stated in the Framework Contract. Once O2 Eurotariff is activated, all of these special offers, and their respective benefits, are deactivated.

Prices
Zone Outgoing calls within zone
and to the Czech Republic Incoming calls SMS MMS
EU 13.95 / 16.60 6.85 / 8.15 10 / 11.90 7.80 / 9.28
Rest of Europe 35 / 41.65 20 / 23.80 10 / 11.90 7.80 / 9.28
Other countries 55 / 65.45 45 / 53.55 10 / 11.90 7.80 / 9.28

EU – Austria, Azores (Portugal), Belgium, Bulgaria, Canary Islands (Spain), Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, French Guinea (France), Germany, Gibraltar (Great Britain), Great Britain, Greece, Guadeloupe (France), Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madeira (Portugal), Malta, Martinique (France), the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Réunion (France), Romania, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Vatican (Italy)

Rest of Europe – Albania, Andorra, Belarus, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Faeroe Islands, Guernsey, Iceland, Isle of Man, Jersey, Kosovo, Liechtenstein, Macedonia, Moldavia, Monaco, Norway, Serbia and Montenegro, Switzerland, Turkey, the Ukraine

Other countries – All remaining countries (including Russia)

[meir]

Vodafone Czech will include in Eurotariff countries EU plus Croatia and Switzerland.

[prion]

Voipfone is a serious company. Bear also in mind that BT charges 28.5 p/min (peak) to connect to 07937 numbers!

[Stu]

I don't see a conflict between callbacks and data for the reasons mentioned by DN. It should be noted that callbacks are not limited to prepaid. Several Hong Kong providers offer their subscribers better roaming rates when using their callbackservice.

From what I've read, voip using an efficient codec gives you roughly ten minutes of talk time per meg. The average data roaming rate that I've seen is ten to fifteen US dollars a meg. (Come back Mega No Limits!!!).

Assume the lower rate and no termination rates, you are still talking about US$1 a minute over VOIP.

VOIP over 3g is also real shaky. I've done it on one provider in the UK and to quote my British friends "it was simply brilliant." In other places, this isn't likely to be the case.

By the way, for those of you using SIP and Windows Mobile 5 or 6 (without the SIP module) take a look at Fring. It has great connectivity to both Skype and SIP. It also gives you Skype on Symbian.