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				Join Date: 17 Mar 2004 
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			TRUE: that is what the FAQ says. That is not what the info back says when you request your balance using the phone and United Mobile Menu. What does clear mean? When you request your balance, does the message read "no expiry"? Too bad the message back does not give the expiry date instead of the INCORRECT information "no expiry". Stan Service: US T-MO post paid (2) - US T-MO prepaid (2) - UM+ - TravelSIM DE SIMYO - DE SUNSIM T-Mobile DE Calling Cards: Onesuite Enjoyprepaid AT&T MCI Mobivox  | 
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				Join Date: 28 Jul 2007 
				Location: Garda lake (south-west) 
				
				
				
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	 Now in my sim too appears this message 'no expiry' 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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	 My SIM showed "no expiry" from the very beginning. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			postpaid: O2 on Business XL; prepaid: DE: Aldi Talk, Lidl; UK: 3; BG: MTel, vivacom; RU: MTS; RS: MTS; UAE: du Tourist SIM; INT'L: toggle mobile VoIP: sipgate.de (German DID); sipgate.co.uk (British DID); ukddi.com (British DID); sipcall.ch (Swiss DID); megafon.bg (Bulgarian DID); InterVoip.com  | 
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	 when calling um customer service once they told me they had to deactivate card by hand and it's not done automatically. So card could even be active for 2 years when not used. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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	 A few days ago i've been to France (aix-en-provence) and for 4-5 hours my um+ couldn't call to some italian mobiles numbers 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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	 Why the calls from Um+ to Travelsim aren't free, while if i call from an italian sim i dont' pay nothing? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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	 Not sure if the UM+ card expires after 9 months, but I think it would as they have tried to mirror their 423 product. Also it is quite the revenue earner, must be so many people who dont use the Sim regularly, they loose all their credit when the Sim expires and UM keeps it.  So expiring a Sim sooner rather then later must be better for business. It also must cost them something in signaling charges to keep a sim operating that isnt being used? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
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