Think I have it figured out for Italy/France/UK trip - Page 2

andy · 05-05-2010, 00:22

I don't understand the question, as I can't see a big roaming data bundle on Wind. I can see €3 per megabyte which is more expensive for roaming than some UK SIMs, and some of them also have fairly modest bundles which work out a bit cheaper pro rata. Outside roaming bundles, if you want more than 20 or 30 or 50 MB a day you certainly need a local SIM anyway, and they'd be better value before that.

tmb · 05-05-2010, 01:23

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Originally Posted by andy

I don't understand the question, as I can't see a big roaming data bundle on Wind.

The Mega No Limit plan includes 2.6 GB/month for €20.00/month. And for roaming:

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Roaming No Limit

With this offer you get the usual national rates for data (web only, € 0.003/KB) also while you are roaming abroad. It has a monthly fee of € 3.00

So for €23 I don't see how I could use that much data in 10 days! Even at €.51 for roaming outside of Italy I think it will be ok since I don't plan to do much talking.

petkow · 05-05-2010, 08:50

I think you might be missing something here. Were you thinking that you would continue using your 2.6GB allowance when you leave Italy?

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L'opzione non è valida per il traffico generato all'Estero. In questo caso si applicano le tariffe a consumo previste all'Estero.

(from: Wind - Privati - Mega No Limit)

Basically, you cannot use your allowance of Mega no Limit when you are in UK and France. The 3 Euro option you are buying into is merely guaranteeing your rate of around 3 Euros per MB whilst you are roaming. That is all. You will still need to pay for that separately. As Andy points out, 3Euros/MB is hardly a rate to write home about!

At least for the UK you are much better off using a UK SIM for your data requirements. Some UK SIMs even have similar prices of roaming within Europe to the Wind rate, but without needing to cough up 3 euros for the 'privilege' of doing so.

tmb · 05-05-2010, 23:04

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Originally Posted by petkow

I think you might be missing something here. Were you thinking that you would continue using your 2.6GB allowance when you leave Italy?

Yes, I was thinking that based on the quote from this page: PrePaidGSM: Wind (Italy)

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Roaming No Limit

With this offer you get the usual national rates for data (web only, € 0.003/KB) also while you are roaming abroad. It has a monthly fee of € 3.00

I was reading it as you get €8000.00/month (~2.6GB) data bundle for €30/month, and the Roaming No Limit option lets you use that bundle for roaming as well. I guess I'm reading it wrong? Would help if I could speak Italian

So then it sounds like I'm back to the drawing board again. Will any one sim from Italy/France/UK get me reasonably priced data roaming in the other two countries? I looked around and don't see any reasonable data offers for the International providers either.

So should I just get 3 different sims?

Bossman · 05-05-2010, 23:25

IMO, if you main need is data, then the best solution is probably to get a separate sim for each country. That's the only way you can get cheap data rates. Data roaming is expensive in general. And the international sims are not any better. In most cases, they are more expensive.

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Originally Posted by tmb

Yes, I was thinking that based on the quote from this page: PrePaidGSM: Wind (Italy)

I was reading it as you get €8000.00/month (~2.6GB) data bundle for €30/month, and the Roaming No Limit option lets you use that bundle for roaming as well. I guess I'm reading it wrong? Would help if I could speak Italian

So then it sounds like I'm back to the drawing board again. Will any one sim from Italy/France/UK get me reasonably priced data roaming in the other two countries? I looked around and don't see any reasonable data offers for the International providers either.

So should I just get 3 different sims?

vegemite · 10-05-2010, 07:42

Seems like Wind is the way to go? We're starting off in the UK, going through France, Italy, Austria, Croatia and then Bosnia.

We have post-paid 3 Australia accounts, and I believe the 3 Like Home system is pretty good? Or is Wind better? We also need Google Maps access, we'll die without it, and most SIMs I have looked at including Global SIMs have INSANE data prices.

Any suggestions?

HTC Desire (UK Version Unlocked) / 3 Australia Post Paid SIM

petkow · 12-05-2010, 10:53

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Originally Posted by vegemite

Seems like Wind is the way to go?

No I do not think so. If you are starting off in the UK, you may as well just pick up any SIM for data usage there, as the roaming data rates in your other countries are comparable (if not cheaper) than Wind. This will probably be your best option even in your other countries if you anticipate light data use. The cheapest would of course be to pick up a SIM in each country, but that choice is yours. As it is France has very poor prepaid data offerings, but on the other hand Austria have very good deals (especially at Hoffer/Aldi). Just search through this forum for details.

Likewise when in Italy, if you anticipate high data use, then get a Wind card for use there. As mentioned higher in this thread, I do not think its roaming deal is anything that special.

Three like home? Does this still exist? Not in the UK at least, but you may be able to get one in Australia and Austria. Bear in mind that you are usually restricted to the use of the Three network in each country, which is often rather poor.

vegemite · 17-05-2010, 08:11

Can I pop a Wind SIM in my phone and make and receive calls or is it just for mobile data? I will get one for my wife and I. Be nice if we can call each other cheaply too. I will just get SIMs for each country then. What's recommended for UK and Austria for data and voice access via smartphone? Gawd we'll die without live GPS.

petkow · 17-05-2010, 09:52

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Originally Posted by vegemite

....What's recommended for UK and Austria for data and voice access via smartphone? Gawd we'll die without live GPS.

Search through this forum for info on yesss!. I think they still have the best offer, and you can pick up their SIM's at any Hofer supermarket, which are all over the place.

vegemite · 17-05-2010, 10:13

Works for me then.. Does this Yesss have coverage across Austria and out of the towns? And when I get one of these things, what about instructions on how to use them? All in German? And getting credit balance?

Do I need ID or anything else to get pre-paid SIMs?

Great!!! So Three pre-paid for the UK, Wind for Italy, Yesss for Austria, now just France, Croatia and Bosnia to sort out! VIPNet seems quite good in Croatia..

And how much can you generally expect to pay for a SIM and to activate it, is it expensive?

And these will just work in our unlocked 900 / 2100 UK model phones?

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andy (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Prophet Posts: 2,128 Join Date: 10 Dec 2004 Country:	05-05-2010, 00:22 I don't understand the question, as I can't see a big roaming data bundle on Wind. I can see €3 per megabyte which is more expensive for roaming than some UK SIMs, and some of them also have fairly modest bundles which work out a bit cheaper pro rata. Outside roaming bundles, if you want more than 20 or 30 or 50 MB a day you certainly need a local SIM anyway, and they'd be better value before that. Last edited by andy; 05-05-2010 at 00:32..

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vegemite (Offline) Member Advanced Member Posts: 48 Join Date: 10 May 2010 Location: Australia Country:	10-05-2010, 07:42 Seems like Wind is the way to go? We're starting off in the UK, going through France, Italy, Austria, Croatia and then Bosnia. We have post-paid 3 Australia accounts, and I believe the 3 Like Home system is pretty good? Or is Wind better? We also need Google Maps access, we'll die without it, and most SIMs I have looked at including Global SIMs have INSANE data prices. Any suggestions? HTC Desire (UK Version Unlocked) / 3 Australia Post Paid SIM

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vegemite (Offline) Member Advanced Member Posts: 48 Join Date: 10 May 2010 Location: Australia Country:	17-05-2010, 08:11 Can I pop a Wind SIM in my phone and make and receive calls or is it just for mobile data? I will get one for my wife and I. Be nice if we can call each other cheaply too. I will just get SIMs for each country then. What's recommended for UK and Austria for data and voice access via smartphone? Gawd we'll die without live GPS. HTC Desire (unlocked UK version) / Nokia E71 (Wife's phone) / 3 Australia Post Paid SIM (both) Looking for data / voice SIMS for Europe in August 2010 - UK, France, Italy, Austria, Croatia and Bosnia

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vegemite (Offline) Member Advanced Member Posts: 48 Join Date: 10 May 2010 Location: Australia Country:	17-05-2010, 10:13 Works for me then.. Does this Yesss have coverage across Austria and out of the towns? And when I get one of these things, what about instructions on how to use them? All in German? And getting credit balance? Do I need ID or anything else to get pre-paid SIMs? Great!!! So Three pre-paid for the UK, Wind for Italy, Yesss for Austria, now just France, Croatia and Bosnia to sort out! VIPNet seems quite good in Croatia.. And how much can you generally expect to pay for a SIM and to activate it, is it expensive? And these will just work in our unlocked 900 / 2100 UK model phones? HTC Desire (unlocked UK version) / Nokia E71 (Wife's phone) / 3 Australia Post Paid SIM (both) Looking for data / voice SIMS for Europe in August 2010 - UK, France, Italy, Austria, Croatia and Bosnia Last edited by vegemite; 17-05-2010 at 10:20..