Vodafone UK Abolishes Roaming Charges for Summer and cuts long distance cost for good - Page 2

babble · **"Vodafone International" to be launched tomorrow -** 14-05-2009, 22:29

The new british tariff is to have a snappy name: "Vodafone International".

Vodafone must surely realise that its customers in other countries will want this tariff as well!

MATHA531 · 14-05-2009, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by babble

The new british tariff is to have a snappy name: "Vodafone International".

Vodafone must surely realise that its customers in other countries will want this tariff as well!

Well obviously, if I were in Germany even if I didn't go to the UK, I could easily pick up a vodafone UK sim card for next to nothing on ebay, top it up with a vodafone de voucher, and be able to make calls for 5p/minute within Germany and almost the entire eu as well as Australia, New Zealand, USA, Canada and China (in the last 3 also to mobile numbers) and 20p/minute to UK numbers both landline and mobile.

How can they not match?

hkr · 14-05-2009, 23:12

As for Hungary, +36 21 xxx xxxx DID numbers are available for free. These are not landline but "nomadic" numbers (in fact VoIP). Several networks charge as if these were landline. Vodafone Hungary (how funny) have set a HIGH fee for calling these numbers. I would wonder what Vodafone UK charges.

babble · **Vodafone´s summer holiday prices -** 15-05-2009, 12:15

So here are some of Vodafone´s european roaming charges this summer:

Vodafone UK: 0c connection charge within Europe with "Vodafone Passport". (Free european roaming)
Vodafone Germany: 75c connection charge within Europe with "Vodafone ReiseVersprechen".
Vodafone Ireland: 79c connection charge within Europe with "Vodafone Passport".
Vodafone Spain: 115c connection charge within Europe with "Vodafone Passport".

I don´t understand why vodafone´s customers outside the UK are not complaining. The media in Germany, Ireland and Spain don´t seem to understand how their citizens are going to be "treated" by vodafone.

Perhaps Inquistor, dg7feq, 9ero9 and Henning can spread the news in Germany. Perhaps PatPhelan can complain in Ireland, if he still has a vodafone sim.

Pat, Good luck with the launch of your 4th generation maxRoam sim in June!

MATHA531 · 14-05-2009, 21:38

Please forgive me if I ask too many questions as I am a little slow to pick up on things but they eventually come to me.....

So let's see...I get a free Vodafone UK sim card and sign up for passport after an initial top up....I now can call landlines in Europe for 5p/minute and mobiles for 15p while I can call all numbers in the USA and Canada and China for 5p. Got that. I am on the simple plan so all calls within the UK are 20p/minute got that too (including to voice mail).....now I travel to France...ah ha the promotion says all calls I make will be charged as if I'm in the UK...so if I call a UK number, it's 20p including voice mail...right. But if I call a local French landline, then it's 5p (far better than I would get using a French prepaid sim)..if I call the USA it's 5p whether I'm in the UK or Australia, right?

And the one thing I seem to have missed, is the billing per minute or per second or per second with a minimum...it's probably in there but I can't seem to find it.

Frankly, if I have it right, at least for this summer, it might be the best deal there is and culd really inflict severe damage on some of the international cards. Also one advantage of vodafone is you can top up in any country which has a vodafone subsidiarly with local vouchers in that country. Thus if I'm in France I cause an SFR voucher to top up the vodafone UK account while I'm in France, right?

Finally, won't this force O2 and Orange to have to match? That's what happened in the USA a decade ago. In the original development of cell phones, originally you had a very small calling area which came out of your minutes for each month (and they were very limited, let me tell you). Calls outside your local area were billed as long distance.

Then along came Sprint, yes they were the first, to revolutionize this and make the whole USA roaming free and long distance free. Muchagainst their will, the other carriers were forced to match and we were on the way to what we have today...national calling areas, lots of minutes and no long distance charges (but some of them make it up with asininely high international roaming charges, are you listenng AT&T and T Mobile USA)....I know this is a temporary promotion but isn't this what Ms. Redding has been after and isn't vodafone just trying to show that regulation by the eu is unnecessary.....

Finally, what about the other vodafone subsidiaries...will vodafone DE be forced to match this for its customers? After all, if I have a German Vodafone card, I pay astronomically high rates both to call within Germany and pay the eu rates to roam throughout the eu...now I can have a vodafone UK card, top it up with a vodafone DE voucher so that's no problem and call within Germany for 5p which is what 0,07€. What will vodafone have to do to keep their other subsidiaries happy.

Hey Mr. Ed, does this worry you?

MATHA531 · 15-05-2009, 13:21

The solution is simple....get a vodafone UK sim card for the summer!

(Incidentally, I am still not sure of one thing.....their advertising talk of lying on the beach (presumably in some sunny place like Spain) and leaving your phone on and using it just as if you are home. I get that. Reception of calls will be free. But what about calling out? As I thought about it they can't mean (or do they) that you get the same international rates say to the USA (5p/minute) jif you call from outside the UK. Or does it? It's not clear to me but I profess that I'm dumb. Anybody know the answer.

babble · **Vodafone´s new plans -** 15-05-2009, 13:42

Vodafone´s press release yesterday refers to two tariff changes.

1. The new (permanent) international plan for calls from the UK only, which started today. Vodafone Pay as You Go call costs on the "Simply Tariff for Vodafone International" are given at the bottom of this link: Vodafone UK Abolishes Roaming Charges for Summer and Permanently Cuts the Price Of Calling Abroad from the UK - Vodafone

USA, Canada, China: 5 ppm (Cost to call landline), 5 ppm (Cost to call mobile)
Plus new prices to some other countries.

2. The new Vodafone UK Passport plan, which begins on 1st June.
Vodafone Passport ? mobile phone calls when roaming abroad

Calling the USA from Spain will not be 5 ppm. Calling UK landline from Spain will be 5 ppm. Calling spanish landline from Spain will be 5 ppm.

babble · **Correction -** 15-05-2009, 13:56

Sorry, my last comments are incorrect.

Calling UK landline from Spain will be 5 ppm: wrong.
Calling spanish landline from Spain will be 5 ppm: wrong.

Bossman · 15-05-2009, 15:17

Calling all other countries besides UK and the country you are in is 38p.

Vodafone Passport ? mobile phone calls when roaming abroad

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATHA531

The solution is simple....get a vodafone UK sim card for the summer!

(Incidentally, I am still not sure of one thing.....their advertising talk of lying on the beach (presumably in some sunny place like Spain) and leaving your phone on and using it just as if you are home. I get that. Reception of calls will be free. But what about calling out? As I thought about it they can't mean (or do they) that you get the same international rates say to the USA (5p/minute) jif you call from outside the UK. Or does it? It's not clear to me but I profess that I'm dumb. Anybody know the answer.

babble · **Different Vodafone Passport Tariffs Across Europe -** 15-05-2009, 19:34

Vodafone Passport Tariffs Across Europe

For years, Vivane Redding has been pressurising the mobile telecoms companies to reduce their european roaming charges. Yet there has been no significant public discussion across Europe about the new vodafone UK roaming tariff, which was announced on May 14 2009.

If you want cheaper roaming charges across Europe, please help to publicise vodafone´s different passport tariffs. Knowledge about the price differences might motivate people to protest, and other mobile telecom companies may be forced to reduce their roaming charges.

Business journalists, bloggers and technical writers will write about vodafone in the next few days. And many will need a list of vodafone´s different european passport tariffs. Can you help to compile such a list?

For each of vodafone´s different european passport tariffs, journalists need know:

1. The cost per minute for receiving an incoming roaming call in another european country.
2. The cost per minute for making an out-going call from a roaming country, back to the home country.

Here is a list of vodafone´s different european web sites. If you can find, or check, the passport tariff details, please list the information in this thread.

Czech Republic
Vodafone - Osobní: Mobilní telefony, Tarify, Slu?by a nastavení, Vodafone live!, eShop, Samoobsluha

Germany
Vodafone Auslandstarife - bequem und kostengünstig ins Ausland telefonieren - Vodafone D2 - Privat / Tarife / Auslandstarife

Greece
Vodafone.gr - ????????? / Roaming

Hungary
Vodafone - Roaming - Külföldi Mobilhasználat

Ireland
Let's go Roaming with Vodafone Passport

Italy
Tariffe e promozioni Vodafone per l'estero

Malta
Vodafone Malta - Mobile Phones, Wireless Internet & Broadband

Netherlands
Bellen in het buitenland

Portugal
Roaming Vodafone

Romania
Personal - Vodafone.ro

Spain
Vodafone: Vodafone Passport Llamadas al mismo Precio en la Unión Europea

An incomplete list of Vodafone´s different "Passport" tariffs within Europe:

Vodafone UK: 0c connection charge (in & out). Vodafone´s single offer of free european roaming.
Vodafone Germany: 75c connection charge (in & out). "Vodafone ReiseVersprechen"
Vodafone Ireland: 79c connection charge (in & out).
Vodafone Italy: 75c connection charge (in) + 75c every 30 minutes. 75c connection charge (out).
Vodafone Hungary: c. 1.03 EUR charge (in & out) every 10 minutes.
Vodafone Spain: 1.15 EUR connection charge (in & out).
Vodafone Malta: 1.16 EUR charge (in) every 10 minutes. 1.00 EUR connection charge (out).

Please copy and publicise Vodafone´s different european "Passport" tariffs in other forums and across the internet.

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babble (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 115 Join Date: 11 Oct 2007 Country:	"Vodafone International" to be launched tomorrow - 14-05-2009, 22:29 The new british tariff is to have a snappy name: "Vodafone International". Vodafone must surely realise that its customers in other countries will want this tariff as well!

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hkr (Offline) Member Advanced Member Posts: 75 Join Date: 29 Apr 2009 Country:	14-05-2009, 23:12 As for Hungary, +36 21 xxx xxxx DID numbers are available for free. These are not landline but "nomadic" numbers (in fact VoIP). Several networks charge as if these were landline. Vodafone Hungary (how funny) have set a HIGH fee for calling these numbers. I would wonder what Vodafone UK charges. Postpaid: 3x Vodafone (HU) 1x T-Mobile) formerly also Pannon Prepaid: Vodafone, Pannon, T-Mobile (HU) Optimus (PT) SamiSwoi, ERA, Orange (PL) VIP (HR) T-Mobile (AT) Vodafone, O2, Orange, T-Mobile (UK) Vodafone (DE) Data-only prepaid: Vodafone, T-Mobile, Djuice/Pannon (HU) International SIMs: UM+, Sim4Travel, TravelSim Phones: Nokia E51, E71, Samsung D880, SE P990i, Ericsson T39m -forever! , many others in the drawer. 3G modems Huawei E220, E870, EU870D, U740, Alcatel X200 VoIP: Justvoip, CallWithUs, Neophonex, fonline, Macrogate and several others for outgoing... DIDs from Macrogate, DIDww, Gradwell, Voxbone and others. FreePBX, Vigor router with inbuilt ATA, Nokia E-series phones.

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babble (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 115 Join Date: 11 Oct 2007 Country:	Vodafone´s summer holiday prices - 15-05-2009, 12:15 So here are some of Vodafone´s european roaming charges this summer: Vodafone UK: 0c connection charge within Europe with "Vodafone Passport". (Free european roaming) Vodafone Germany: 75c connection charge within Europe with "Vodafone ReiseVersprechen". Vodafone Ireland: 79c connection charge within Europe with "Vodafone Passport". Vodafone Spain: 115c connection charge within Europe with "Vodafone Passport". I don´t understand why vodafone´s customers outside the UK are not complaining. The media in Germany, Ireland and Spain don´t seem to understand how their citizens are going to be "treated" by vodafone. Perhaps Inquistor, dg7feq, 9ero9 and Henning can spread the news in Germany. Perhaps PatPhelan can complain in Ireland, if he still has a vodafone sim. Pat, Good luck with the launch of your 4th generation maxRoam sim in June!

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MATHA531 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 869 Join Date: 15 Oct 2004 Country:	14-05-2009, 21:38 Please forgive me if I ask too many questions as I am a little slow to pick up on things but they eventually come to me..... So let's see...I get a free Vodafone UK sim card and sign up for passport after an initial top up....I now can call landlines in Europe for 5p/minute and mobiles for 15p while I can call all numbers in the USA and Canada and China for 5p. Got that. I am on the simple plan so all calls within the UK are 20p/minute got that too (including to voice mail).....now I travel to France...ah ha the promotion says all calls I make will be charged as if I'm in the UK...so if I call a UK number, it's 20p including voice mail...right. But if I call a local French landline, then it's 5p (far better than I would get using a French prepaid sim)..if I call the USA it's 5p whether I'm in the UK or Australia, right? And the one thing I seem to have missed, is the billing per minute or per second or per second with a minimum...it's probably in there but I can't seem to find it. Frankly, if I have it right, at least for this summer, it might be the best deal there is and culd really inflict severe damage on some of the international cards. Also one advantage of vodafone is you can top up in any country which has a vodafone subsidiarly with local vouchers in that country. Thus if I'm in France I cause an SFR voucher to top up the vodafone UK account while I'm in France, right? Finally, won't this force O2 and Orange to have to match? That's what happened in the USA a decade ago. In the original development of cell phones, originally you had a very small calling area which came out of your minutes for each month (and they were very limited, let me tell you). Calls outside your local area were billed as long distance. Then along came Sprint, yes they were the first, to revolutionize this and make the whole USA roaming free and long distance free. Muchagainst their will, the other carriers were forced to match and we were on the way to what we have today...national calling areas, lots of minutes and no long distance charges (but some of them make it up with asininely high international roaming charges, are you listenng AT&T and T Mobile USA)....I know this is a temporary promotion but isn't this what Ms. Redding has been after and isn't vodafone just trying to show that regulation by the eu is unnecessary..... Finally, what about the other vodafone subsidiaries...will vodafone DE be forced to match this for its customers? After all, if I have a German Vodafone card, I pay astronomically high rates both to call within Germany and pay the eu rates to roam throughout the eu...now I can have a vodafone UK card, top it up with a vodafone DE voucher so that's no problem and call within Germany for 5p which is what 0,07€. What will vodafone have to do to keep their other subsidiaries happy. Hey Mr. Ed, does this worry you?

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MATHA531 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 869 Join Date: 15 Oct 2004 Country:	15-05-2009, 13:21 The solution is simple....get a vodafone UK sim card for the summer! (Incidentally, I am still not sure of one thing.....their advertising talk of lying on the beach (presumably in some sunny place like Spain) and leaving your phone on and using it just as if you are home. I get that. Reception of calls will be free. But what about calling out? As I thought about it they can't mean (or do they) that you get the same international rates say to the USA (5p/minute) jif you call from outside the UK. Or does it? It's not clear to me but I profess that I'm dumb. Anybody know the answer.

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babble (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 115 Join Date: 11 Oct 2007 Country:	Vodafone´s new plans - 15-05-2009, 13:42 Vodafone´s press release yesterday refers to two tariff changes. 1. The new (permanent) international plan for calls from the UK only, which started today. Vodafone Pay as You Go call costs on the "Simply Tariff for Vodafone International" are given at the bottom of this link: Vodafone UK Abolishes Roaming Charges for Summer and Permanently Cuts the Price Of Calling Abroad from the UK - Vodafone USA, Canada, China: 5 ppm (Cost to call landline), 5 ppm (Cost to call mobile) Plus new prices to some other countries. 2. The new Vodafone UK Passport plan, which begins on 1st June. Vodafone Passport ? mobile phone calls when roaming abroad Calling the USA from Spain will not be 5 ppm. Calling UK landline from Spain will be 5 ppm. Calling spanish landline from Spain will be 5 ppm. Last edited by babble; 15-05-2009 at 13:51..

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babble (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 115 Join Date: 11 Oct 2007 Country:	Correction - 15-05-2009, 13:56 Sorry, my last comments are incorrect. Calling UK landline from Spain will be 5 ppm: wrong. Calling spanish landline from Spain will be 5 ppm: wrong.

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babble (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 115 Join Date: 11 Oct 2007 Country:	Different Vodafone Passport Tariffs Across Europe - 15-05-2009, 19:34 Vodafone Passport Tariffs Across Europe For years, Vivane Redding has been pressurising the mobile telecoms companies to reduce their european roaming charges. Yet there has been no significant public discussion across Europe about the new vodafone UK roaming tariff, which was announced on May 14 2009. If you want cheaper roaming charges across Europe, please help to publicise vodafone´s different passport tariffs. Knowledge about the price differences might motivate people to protest, and other mobile telecom companies may be forced to reduce their roaming charges. Business journalists, bloggers and technical writers will write about vodafone in the next few days. And many will need a list of vodafone´s different european passport tariffs. Can you help to compile such a list? For each of vodafone´s different european passport tariffs, journalists need know: 1. The cost per minute for receiving an incoming roaming call in another european country. 2. The cost per minute for making an out-going call from a roaming country, back to the home country. Here is a list of vodafone´s different european web sites. If you can find, or check, the passport tariff details, please list the information in this thread. Czech Republic Vodafone - Osobní: Mobilní telefony, Tarify, Slu?by a nastavení, Vodafone live!, eShop, Samoobsluha Germany Vodafone Auslandstarife - bequem und kostengünstig ins Ausland telefonieren - Vodafone D2 - Privat / Tarife / Auslandstarife Greece Vodafone.gr - ????????? / Roaming Hungary Vodafone - Roaming - Külföldi Mobilhasználat Ireland Let's go Roaming with Vodafone Passport Italy Tariffe e promozioni Vodafone per l'estero Malta Vodafone Malta - Mobile Phones, Wireless Internet & Broadband Netherlands Bellen in het buitenland Portugal Roaming Vodafone Romania Personal - Vodafone.ro Spain Vodafone: Vodafone Passport Llamadas al mismo Precio en la Unión Europea An incomplete list of Vodafone´s different "Passport" tariffs within Europe: Vodafone UK: 0c connection charge (in & out). Vodafone´s single offer of free european roaming. Vodafone Germany: 75c connection charge (in & out). "Vodafone ReiseVersprechen" Vodafone Ireland: 79c connection charge (in & out). Vodafone Italy: 75c connection charge (in) + 75c every 30 minutes. 75c connection charge (out). Vodafone Hungary: c. 1.03 EUR charge (in & out) every 10 minutes. Vodafone Spain: 1.15 EUR connection charge (in & out). Vodafone Malta: 1.16 EUR charge (in) every 10 minutes. 1.00 EUR connection charge (out). Please copy and publicise Vodafone´s different european "Passport" tariffs in other forums and across the internet.