Sim4travel T&C: daily charge

[prion]

Originally Posted by JohnDoe

@bobb

I do read what you write, and you write sh.t.



Don´t give me that crap, when you complain all and everything will and is been changed. Sure ... EVEN if they have stated the free postage without saying "just within UK" what do you await? The shipment to the recipient is no typical "Telco" competition, you always have to count with the fact to pay shipping costs. This a absolutely stupid behaviour, to judge on shipping. It says nothing about call quality, about the product quality or even about reliability.



No it is not strange, why is it? They have published their e-mail address as the laws and restrictions within the EU requires. Are you one of those guys who jump in every contract without reading the contract or agreement and complaining then "OMG, I have been ripped of!!!"? Read the "Terms & Conditions" and you will find every information you need. Stop stating bullsh.t, get to the ground of the things before you give other peoples advices and tips, it bores the sh.t out of me, to read those comments and unproven stuff.



So you are know making the rules for marketing? If UM does have a problem with this, they will let their lawyers have a look after it. But it is not up to YOU to tell others how bad those guys are.



You still state things which you have not verified yourself. The fee you mention (daily charge) is not hide in the terms, baby when you write things go after it! The daily connection fee is clearly stated under the rate calculator. So open your eyes.

The e-mail address is published in the "Terms & Conditions", I don´t think that you are now making the rules where things have to stand, the daily costs are to find by the rate calculator, at a frequent place (an info place where you surely find it).

Because of the fact that you don´t read the "T&C" that does not mean that other peoples are so stupid too and for what do they charge extra? They are way cheaper than your recommended TravelSIM. Do you read sometimes what you write in forums?



So when it depends on the usage profile, HOW can YOU recommend a service which is way more expensive. Your recommendations are unproven and your comments are totally negative driven, without any background.



What the hell are you writing here? TravelSIM does charge per minute so you always pay one minute even if you are just calling 10 seconds. I see you can't read, did I wrote business use? I still say S4T is way cheaper than TravelSIM, prove me wrong with an example.



And I repeat myself you give wrong recommendations to guys who look for help and you do not state informations neutral and this disqualifies you as trustworthy knowledge base. Rookie.

Are you connected to sim4travel in any way? Are you a representative?

[kupe]

Originally Posted by bbob

And my advice to stay away, this thread started about hidding a daily cost inside the terms...

Hmmm. I saw the info about their daily cost within about 15 seconds of my first visit to their website. It's right there on the page when you click the "Rates" tab.

And as for their shipping charge, it was clearly displayed when I went to the checkout page. If I felt it unreasonable, I simply would not have proceeded to Checkout.

As it is, I find both the daily fee and shipping reasonable. If one doesn't, then don't buy it.

Who has time to sweat these things like this anyway??

Kupe

[easyroam-]

Service life

The travel sim card has a fixed service life of 365 days. However to keep your sim card working for the following year, there is a renewal fee of GBP £12. This will keep your number working and any un-used credit valid for the next 365 days.

Customers who purchase call credit within 90 days of there expiry date will not need to pay the network fee and all credit will be rolled over for the next 365 days.

www.travelsim.co.uk

[andy]

Though I'm not offended by swearing, it does seem both lazy and unnecessary, and starts to get boring.

bbob's point is made clearly enough, that for people who on some of their days of use only receive calls, or make only one or two very short outgoing calls, daily use charges will influence a decision which of these to choose

To begin with, the postage issue was not clarified on the website

Note also that the image of the rate chart is not fully shown in all browsers, for example Opera Mini on a phone, the bottom part being truncated and the connection charge not visible.

I'd add a comment that Sim4travel said they'd changed terms and conditions again in January, and had contacted everyone to notify them. For me, this was untrue, and I asked them to send them again; they sent October again.

Something S4T did change in January was to dramatically reduce the number of countries where incoming calls are free, so they are now the roaming SIM with the fewest - only 35, EU plus 8 others, fewer than O2 UK. Also, large increases in their outgoing rates in those countries removed from the free list - now 49p, about double some rivals for some destinations

[Grampa]

A short while ago, I was trying to get to United Mobile's website through Google, and was directed to www.unltedmobile.com. If this is the company that tried to get my business by deceiving me, that's all I need to know about them.

[bbob]

Johndo, you accusse me of going from business to just using sometime use

You brought up the business use and that would include more than europe, but now it's all about you just using it in europe, andy does have a point about rates having changed to be more expensive for other destinations.

Postage, last time. It now says free in the uk, before it did not. Why did they change this, probably because it was unclear. If you offer a roaming free international sim your customer base is not limited to the uk. So customers outside the uk read free postage and expect that, they did not get it, but now it has been changed, probably becasue it was not clear before. so problem solved.

As for pricing, there are some many different rates and plans so you can comeup whith one which is beteer for s4t, I can come up with one which is not and we can go one forever.

The thread is about daily use fee so let's get back to that, it you lay aside your angry attitude.

[Effendi]

IMPORTANT - MODERATION

I had to delete several posts on this thread. It was like being back at school-time.
I banned JohnDoe for 1 week because of his posts.
I don't like to ban anyone on this forum, but someone has to calm down.

Now go back to the topic or I close the thread.