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MATHA531 · 06-02-2008, 01:58

The rates look too good to be true but they are correct...they are not part of T Mobile UK and I odn't know the agreement between them but it is very simple...

To call the United States while in the UK if you have a T Mobile UK sim card, you first dial the number 07755 220 220 (incidentally when working with a UK mobile in the UK, to make a call to a UK number you do not dial +44 and then the number, you dial the number with a leading zero...thus a London number which might read 0207 555 1212 would be dialed exactly that way...if you were calling that number from outside the UK on a gsm mobile phone you would dial +44 207 555 1212...the leading zero functioning much the same way the lead 1 functions on a US number...it tells the switching equipment this is a UK call...also the international prefix outside the USA is 00 so to dial the USA from most anywhere in Euroope you would dial 00 1 212 555 1212 although on a mobile phone the + key stands in for the international code so on a mobile phone the number could be dialed +1 212 555 1212...to call a number in France while in Europe you would dial 0033 x xx xx xx xx although from within France the same number would be dialed with a lead 0 and no 0033...

In any event, after dialing the number 077 55 220 220, the call will go through and you start listening to a message describing the procedure..you don't have to wait for that message to be completed...as soon as the message begins you dial, say to call the USA, 001 212 555 1212 followed by the # key...you don't press send and the call goes through and it goes through very quickly and the connections seem very good and indeed the rate is what is quoted 3p/minute...you do not pay for the call to 07755 220 220 as a UK call..the total charge is just what it says 3p per minute...I use this service a great deal, for example, to call the US number 1 800 555 8355 where I can pick up baseball or football scores....what I did was program my phone with the T Mobile UK sim card for that number to 077 55 220 220 ppp (press the * key three times on Nokia phones - to get the p, not sure on other models) followed by the number 001800 555 8355 and after a message you get telling you "calls to US toll free numbers are not free if dialed from outside the United States, you will be billed at international direct dial rates if the call is answered, if you do not wish to be billed, please hang up now"...and then the call goes through and yes to repeat the rate is indeed 3p/minute...I've used it and it is true. And one other good thing about calling the USA, you pay the 3p/minute whether your're calling a landline, a US toll free number or a mobile number....you can use the same situation to call a number say in France by, after the call to the 0775.. number is answered, dialing 0033 whatever (omitting the lead zero) and in this case a call to a French landline is the same 3p/minute but a call to a French mobile would be 15p/minute.

The nice thing is that T Mobile UK has I think the cheapest rates to call other mobile numbers in the UK whether they are T Mobile UK numbers or not...all calls to non special numbers in the UK, be they mobile or landlines are 15p/minute dialed as noted above without the 0775... number.

Your skepticism is totally understandable, I was skeptical too but trust me, I wouldn't lie, it works completely as advertised.

Ukap · 06-02-2008, 02:07

Wow - thorough answer. Appreciate you taking the time to explain it. I am definately going to try this. I will copy your instructions and follow them when I get there.

I have decided to get my UK Sim before I leave. I want to know & give out my number beforehand to my USA friends so they can reach me.

MATHA531 · 06-02-2008, 02:16

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Originally Posted by Ukap

Wow - thorough answer. Appreciate you taking the time to explain it. I am definately going to try this. I will copy your instructions and follow them when I get there.

I have decided to get my UK Sim before I leave. I want to know & give out my number beforehand to my USA friends so they can reach me.

Again, try then to get a T Mobile UK sim card via ebay UK or the trick described above when T Mobile UK runs, as it does from time to time, its free giveaways of sim cards or as desribed on the yourcallworld web site, perhaps for £1 each.

MATHA531 · 06-02-2008, 02:17

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Originally Posted by Ukap

Wow - thorough answer. Appreciate you taking the time to explain it. I am definately going to try this. I will copy your instructions and follow them when I get there.

I have decided to get my UK Sim before I leave. I want to know & give out my number beforehand to my USA friends so they can reach me.

Don't mention it...I learned many of these work arounds from some of the great people on this forum who are only too happy to share their expertise.

That's what message board buddies are for.

MATHA531 · 06-02-2008, 02:14

Incidentally, just one other quick thing...callbackworld and a similar service enlinea used to be very very good from mobile phones and many of the international sim cards to call the USA...for a couple of years, it worked indeed very well with the original United Mobile with calls coming in at around 12¢/minute to call anywhere UM had free incoming to the USA (enlinea might have been a couple of cents cheaper) but then, and being a conspiracy theory person myself, to try to kill thise golden goose, cbw (and enlinea) were forced to raise their rates using the+423 service to some unfathomably high rate....this went along with the steep rises in termination fees on other carriers to Liechtenstein mobiles (as well as Estonian mobiles, Icelandic mobiles...I wonder what they have in common???) although cbw and enlinea rates using the Estonian and Icelandic mobiles, particularly Iceland, are still okay. This is what, I am sure, pushed UM to start pushing its +44 service using Jersey numbers instead of the +423 numbers...it was and still is free to receive calls in many many places on the +423 number but the people calling pay a mint to make the call if indeed the call goes through at all.

Anyway, the interesting thing now on both cbw and enlinea is that rates on many local sims using their service is still relatively cheap say on French, Italian, German sim cards but have also shot through the rook on UK mobile numbers...in other words using a UK mobile to make a call via cbw or enlinea is not cheap as you indicated...again I wonder why (draw your own conclusions...)

Ukap · 06-02-2008, 17:32

I have read that the Estonia & Iceland services are unreliable. United Mobile seems to be the stable company & I have used them before so know how it works.

andy · 06-02-2008, 03:07

I have some free SIMs. Send a PM with address details

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MATHA531 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 869 Join Date: 15 Oct 2004 Country:	06-02-2008, 01:58 The rates look too good to be true but they are correct...they are not part of T Mobile UK and I odn't know the agreement between them but it is very simple... To call the United States while in the UK if you have a T Mobile UK sim card, you first dial the number 07755 220 220 (incidentally when working with a UK mobile in the UK, to make a call to a UK number you do not dial +44 and then the number, you dial the number with a leading zero...thus a London number which might read 0207 555 1212 would be dialed exactly that way...if you were calling that number from outside the UK on a gsm mobile phone you would dial +44 207 555 1212...the leading zero functioning much the same way the lead 1 functions on a US number...it tells the switching equipment this is a UK call...also the international prefix outside the USA is 00 so to dial the USA from most anywhere in Euroope you would dial 00 1 212 555 1212 although on a mobile phone the + key stands in for the international code so on a mobile phone the number could be dialed +1 212 555 1212...to call a number in France while in Europe you would dial 0033 x xx xx xx xx although from within France the same number would be dialed with a lead 0 and no 0033... In any event, after dialing the number 077 55 220 220, the call will go through and you start listening to a message describing the procedure..you don't have to wait for that message to be completed...as soon as the message begins you dial, say to call the USA, 001 212 555 1212 followed by the # key...you don't press send and the call goes through and it goes through very quickly and the connections seem very good and indeed the rate is what is quoted 3p/minute...you do not pay for the call to 07755 220 220 as a UK call..the total charge is just what it says 3p per minute...I use this service a great deal, for example, to call the US number 1 800 555 8355 where I can pick up baseball or football scores....what I did was program my phone with the T Mobile UK sim card for that number to 077 55 220 220 ppp (press the * key three times on Nokia phones - to get the p, not sure on other models) followed by the number 001800 555 8355 and after a message you get telling you "calls to US toll free numbers are not free if dialed from outside the United States, you will be billed at international direct dial rates if the call is answered, if you do not wish to be billed, please hang up now"...and then the call goes through and yes to repeat the rate is indeed 3p/minute...I've used it and it is true. And one other good thing about calling the USA, you pay the 3p/minute whether your're calling a landline, a US toll free number or a mobile number....you can use the same situation to call a number say in France by, after the call to the 0775.. number is answered, dialing 0033 whatever (omitting the lead zero) and in this case a call to a French landline is the same 3p/minute but a call to a French mobile would be 15p/minute. The nice thing is that T Mobile UK has I think the cheapest rates to call other mobile numbers in the UK whether they are T Mobile UK numbers or not...all calls to non special numbers in the UK, be they mobile or landlines are 15p/minute dialed as noted above without the 0775... number. Your skepticism is totally understandable, I was skeptical too but trust me, I wouldn't lie, it works completely as advertised. Last edited by MATHA531; 06-02-2008 at 02:04..

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Ukap (Offline) Member Official Member Posts: 47 Join Date: 27 Apr 2006 Location: South Florida Country:	06-02-2008, 02:07 Wow - thorough answer. Appreciate you taking the time to explain it. I am definately going to try this. I will copy your instructions and follow them when I get there. I have decided to get my UK Sim before I leave. I want to know & give out my number beforehand to my USA friends so they can reach me.

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MATHA531 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Specialist Posts: 869 Join Date: 15 Oct 2004 Country:	06-02-2008, 02:14 Incidentally, just one other quick thing...callbackworld and a similar service enlinea used to be very very good from mobile phones and many of the international sim cards to call the USA...for a couple of years, it worked indeed very well with the original United Mobile with calls coming in at around 12¢/minute to call anywhere UM had free incoming to the USA (enlinea might have been a couple of cents cheaper) but then, and being a conspiracy theory person myself, to try to kill thise golden goose, cbw (and enlinea) were forced to raise their rates using the+423 service to some unfathomably high rate....this went along with the steep rises in termination fees on other carriers to Liechtenstein mobiles (as well as Estonian mobiles, Icelandic mobiles...I wonder what they have in common???) although cbw and enlinea rates using the Estonian and Icelandic mobiles, particularly Iceland, are still okay. This is what, I am sure, pushed UM to start pushing its +44 service using Jersey numbers instead of the +423 numbers...it was and still is free to receive calls in many many places on the +423 number but the people calling pay a mint to make the call if indeed the call goes through at all. Anyway, the interesting thing now on both cbw and enlinea is that rates on many local sims using their service is still relatively cheap say on French, Italian, German sim cards but have also shot through the rook on UK mobile numbers...in other words using a UK mobile to make a call via cbw or enlinea is not cheap as you indicated...again I wonder why (draw your own conclusions...)

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Ukap (Offline) Member Official Member Posts: 47 Join Date: 27 Apr 2006 Location: South Florida Country:	06-02-2008, 17:32 I have read that the Estonia & Iceland services are unreliable. United Mobile seems to be the stable company & I have used them before so know how it works.

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andy (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Prophet Posts: 2,128 Join Date: 10 Dec 2004 Country:	06-02-2008, 03:07 I have some free SIMs. Send a PM with address details