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[tux]

Originally Posted by ChrisNeedsToKnow

fantastico - I was already writing something else, which now seems superflous.

Why did you go for Toggle NL? They have €prices, but the 9c/connect isn´t just as attactive. That´s why I´ll mainly use my UK-card.

Rgds, Christian

(STK doesn't work on the Veer, too )

I've chosen Toggle NL only for the currency. I'm aware of the 9c/call, but I wanted to find out if it applies also outside NL (as it isn't reported elsewhere than NL tariffs).

[NFH]

Originally Posted by ChrisNeedsToKnow

Why did you go for Toggle NL? They have €prices, but the 9c/connect isn´t just as attactive. That´s why I´ll mainly use my UK-card.

Another advantage of the UK card over the NL card is the lack of VAT on roaming outside the EU VAT area. The UK opted to exempt non-EU roaming from UK VAT under Article 9(3)(a) of Council Directive 77/388 ("the Sixth VAT Directive") so that it could charge UK VAT to visitors from outside the EU VAT area who are roaming in the UK.

However, I believe that Toggle has not yet implemented this correctly and might be charging UK VAT on non-European roaming in breach of Article 19 of the Value Added Tax (Place of Supply of Services) Order 1992. This is evident from its prices for roaming in Iceland for example, where Regulation (EU) No 531/2012 caps the price of an outgoing call at €0.29 x 0.8293 = £0.240497 per minute, yet Toggle charges £0.29/min, i.e. 20% more which equates to UK VAT.

[tux]

After a minute or so of network searching, my Veer got signal on vodafone IT automatically.

Thank you Chris

[tux]

Ok, now I get signal also on my Nexus S. The STK still doesn't work, however.

[ChrisNeedsToKnow]

Originally Posted by tux

Ok, now I get signal also on my Nexus S. The STK still doesn't work, however.

On my Samsung Galaxy Nexus i9250 the STK only showed after setting a PIN for the SIM card. Although I doubt it, maybe that´s a problem with other handsets as well?

[tux]

Originally Posted by ChrisNeedsToKnow

On my Samsung Galaxy Nexus i9250 the STK only showed after setting a PIN for the SIM card. Although I doubt it, maybe that´s a problem with other handsets as well?

The STK on my Nexus is shown after I activate and de-activate the airplane mode. After that I can see the STK menu with one option: "toggle". When I click on toggle it seems to load the next menu for a nano-second, but then I'm prompted to the same menu with the same option "toggle"...

[rfranzq]

Originally Posted by tux

.............on my Nexus S. The STK still doesn't work, however.

Just so you folk with no STK on your expensive phones know: It does not show up on my cheap phone either. A BLU tri-SIM I got for $27.

[ronwi]

Bear in mind that the menu can show up in strange places. On my Sony Ericsson Z750a (non-smartphone), it shows up under the entertainment menu.

Originally Posted by rfranzq

Just so you folk with no STK on your expensive phones know: It does not show up on my cheap phone either. A BLU tri-SIM I got for $27.

[rfranzq]

Originally Posted by ronwi

Bear in mind that the menu can show up in strange places. On my Sony Ericsson Z750a (non-smartphone), it shows up under the entertainment menu.

Yes it can. I just checked ALL the obscure menus to double check.
No luck. One would think this kind of thing would get solved over the years.
But no.

[NFH]

Originally Posted by ronwi

Bear in mind that the menu can show up in strange places. On my Sony Ericsson Z750a (non-smartphone), it shows up under the entertainment menu.

Thanks for that. On my old Sony Ericsson K600i (from 2006), it likewise shows up under the entertainment menu (with the icon of a games console controller).