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Default 26-04-2009, 12:11

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That isn't necessarily conclusive

Not all Finarea or Betamax brands have offered this destination, and while some may have removed it from their list, others can still reach the numbers today.
What I have written implies that the route they used was no longer viable (this does not have to do with um but with mobilkom probably). These brands have been offering the destination for more than a year whithout stop
   
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Default 27-04-2009, 07:14

I have realized that cheap callthroughs (below 10p/min) in the UK do no longer offer calls to +4236 mobiles.....
   
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Default 27-04-2009, 10:45

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I have realized that cheap callthroughs (below 10p/min) in the UK do no longer offer calls to +4236 mobiles.....
Even when they did have calls for 10p, they weren't reliable.

Several providers told me there is a large gap in price between the cheapest and next cheapest wholesale carriers, but also a large difference in quality. This was true 4 years ago, and still seemed to be the case more recently if trying via a 10p (from landlines) 0871 number. But with time most providers either shifted to tariffs in the range 15 to 30p, or stopped providing the destination if their particular method wouldn't cover rates that high.

I don't think any of that implies clues to what is happening at the other end now.
   
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Default 27-04-2009, 11:57

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Even when they did have calls for 10p, they weren't reliable.

Several providers told me there is a large gap in price between the cheapest and next cheapest wholesale carriers, but also a large difference in quality. This was true 4 years ago, and still seemed to be the case more recently if trying via a 10p (from landlines) 0871 number. But with time most providers either shifted to tariffs in the range 15 to 30p, or stopped providing the destination if their particular method wouldn't cover rates that high.

I don't think any of that implies clues to what is happening at the other end now.
The strange thing is that recently uk callthroughs (associated with betamax/finarea) advertised rates to +423 mobiles at 5p/min. I tried them and none connected. In fact the automated voice said that the destination was not reachable (or something similar).
I wonder why they advertise these rates then...
   
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Default 27-04-2009, 14:52

Hello. Right now my account shows: my +44 and +423 status: Active and correct balance. So, maybe they're not dead. Let us see.
   
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Default 27-04-2009, 15:19

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Hello. Right now my account shows: my +44 and +423 status: Active and correct balance. So, maybe they're not dead. Let us see.
Now that is interesting! My balances yesterday were all zero, but my +44 is now correct again.

Perhaps "I'm not dead yet?"

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Hello. Right now my account shows: my +44 and +423 status: Active and correct balance. So, maybe they're not dead. Let us see.
Well, it's already something positive. Also I see the balance and the status of the sim "Active"
   
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Default 27-04-2009, 23:13

Hello! Not very nice development. I had (now cancelled) autorecharge on my +44 and +423 UM numbers: i just received n. 6 10 euro each not requested recharge through Paypal!
I immediately requested refund to UM customer service email. If nothing happens, i think this will be a matter for swiss police (
   
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Default 28-04-2009, 09:36

the same here:

united mobile took 4 x 25,- Euros from my paypal account till I stopped autorecharge.

I informed paypal and told them to freeze the transactions.


Letīs see how long it lasts to get the money back .....
   
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Default Money back - 28-04-2009, 11:02

Hi!

Just receive 10 euro money back (through paypal) from UM, as requested last night.

Still waiting other 3- 10 euro each not request auto-recharge they took from paypal last night, till I stopped autorecharge.
   
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