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Default 24-11-2007, 16:09

I agree. These sims are very risky for customers. As Prezmelog mentioned, they can raise prices, or just cease to exist. Both of these happened to me with freeGlobalsim. I had already made up my mind not to spend a dime to purchase any more of these global sims. Unless if there was no initial cost for the sim. And I'll just purchase topup up as needed. So, it's a good thing that they (yackie and Maxroam) were giving out free sims. I really can't see anyone shelling out the initial costs to purchase these sims out right (Yackie and maxroam probably saw that too). For exampe, yacke and celtrek at $49, maxroam at 29 euro. There is just too much uncertaintly at the moment for me to take that chance.


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Default 24-11-2007, 22:51

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I agree. These sims are very risky for customers. As Prezmelog mentioned, they can raise prices, or just cease to exist. Both of these happened to me with freeGlobalsim. I had already made up my mind not to spend a dime to purchase any more of these global sims. Unless if there was no initial cost for the sim. And I'll just purchase topup up as needed. So, it's a good thing that they (yackie and Maxroam) were giving out free sims. I really can't see anyone shelling out the initial costs to purchase these sims out right (Yackie and maxroam probably saw that too). For exampe, yacke and celtrek at $49, maxroam at 29 euro. There is just too much uncertaintly at the moment for me to take that chance.
Your only option would be to buy a um+ sim, setup your own callback system and setup your own voip did numbers.
Always keep 2 sims from 2 different providers on 2 networks. If 1 goes out of business you just reconfige your callback and the forward of the did number to the other card.
Also the did numbers are your own so no problem when a prepaid provider goes out of business, meaning you also loose the did number.

Negative side of do it yourself is that it needs some work and knowledge to confige your own pbxes.com server.

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Default 24-11-2007, 23:36

@YackieMobile

... it is not the 49 bucks, and it is not that you should not ask for covered value on the SIM. I and other customers do not care about 49 dollars, BUT make the system work and do not change all 4 weeks the game rules.

What makes me realy pi...d off is that I have now a new Iceland number, gave it to my customers had to explain why my old 00447624... number is dead and so on ... I mean I do want make business with you guys, I buy a SIM pay money for it, I accept your prices and 4 weeks later you change the prices. Please don't tell me know the USD is falling etc. etc., I don't care about ... the Dollar isn't weak since two days this issue is going on now since nearly 4 years constantly and you had time to build security currency positions to cover currency risks.

That is not the way doing succsefull business, i want a long term business relation and no 2 week partnership. Maybe I want to much or you guys should get out of the Beta stadium. You have one big bonus I do really like, it is your availability here and the availability on the web page (chat) and the nearly fast reaction, that gives a kind of security feeling.

How does the prices now do look like? Raised or not raised?

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Default 24-11-2007, 22:48

we can give the Sim for free.....and just use the first top up for cover the initial cost, BUT what about a distributor network ?

They will not make any commission on their SIM 'sales, and if we give them the SIM for free, dammed, we will not have enough factories for producing all SIM requested by the Distribs.....who will drop them away

What about the DID ( for our business model; who need to be covered too, at last for fews months in case if the customer do not use his card)

Maybe the best solution is to give the SIM for free and to charge few $ for the DID as monthly basis, one month unpaid or unused, and the customer lose his DID, he pay again, he have a new one, or he reserve his DID for a period of 3/6/9/12 months

We can have many scenario.....no one should be the UNIVERSAL SOLUTION

And....our SIM cost 39 $.....not 49$, for 49 $ you have 10 $ credit


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Default 24-11-2007, 23:37

Buytel and Manx have indeed gone kaput (any talk still out there of resurrecting these Isle of Man cards????)...UM has been pretty stable although for the life of me I don't understand who was ultimately responsible for the humongeous increases in termination fees that ended up being the ruination of the +423 service....the Jersey service seems to be okay...both O9 and the Estonian cards seem to be stable although huge termination fees do hurt their use.....

Yackie seems to be piggybacking on O9 and of course as has been noted ad nauseum, the lack of service in Switzerland is a big big drawback.

Right now, today, I would go with UM+44 service and continue to hope for the best.
   
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Default 25-11-2007, 18:03

If the problem is the weakness of the dollar, then declare your prices in Euros. If you want to provide customers with an unofficial current conversion rate as a courtesy, great. Most of the people in this forum or in the market for a roaming SIM can easily handle prices in Pounds, Dollars, or Euros.
   
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Default 25-11-2007, 20:19

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If the problem is the weakness of the dollar, then declare your prices in Euros. If you want to provide customers with an unofficial current conversion rate as a courtesy, great. Most of the people in this forum or in the market for a roaming SIM can easily handle prices in Pounds, Dollars, or Euros.
January 1, 2008 the European sales will be made in EURO, with the balance, the rates and the load available in Euro, in fact the customer will select if he want have his SIM in $ or €

Dec 1, we will publish our Rate Table updated with the landline call decreased


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Default 03-12-2007, 15:57

The 09 client rate table is being changed now, the rate fro Mexico is among the ones being corrected.


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Default 03-12-2007, 17:26

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The 09 client rate table is being changed now, the rate fro Mexico is among the ones being corrected.

is already or will be?

At the moment quote:
Mexico - Germany:

Rate is : € 0.49 per minute.
Rate to a mobile phone is : € 0.69 per minute.
Free incoming calls


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Default 03-12-2007, 17:54

I just got off the phone with 09 customer service and they confirmed incoming calls are free in Mexico and that there are not plans to change that.


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