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DRNewcomb · 01-01-2013, 20:45

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Originally Posted by dg7feq

what is actually the use of these very tiny mobile operators in the US that cover one or two corn fields? Is that more like a network for closed communication (like a petrol company or sth like that) or do they really seriously getting customers?

Built to be sold, a rich man's toy, built for roaming revenue in areas not covered by major companies. In the case of Telna, it appears to be primarily to claim "GSM carrier" status for their international roaming operation.

dg7feq · 03-01-2013, 16:31

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Originally Posted by DRNewcomb

Built to be sold, a rich man's toy, built for roaming revenue in areas not covered by major companies. In the case of Telna, it appears to be primarily to claim "GSM carrier" status for their international roaming operation.

i guessed so... We have a customer here in germany who has one (1) GSM tower in antarctica on a research station. So he is a registered carrier and gets good conditions on SMS and data services to sell his telematics products here in germany

Chris

squawk1200 · **Piranha Mobile Data pricing -** 07-01-2013, 20:57

Noticed a few folks posting here on how good the Pirhana data prices are. Maybe it's the engineer in me, but can anyone confirm that? I see on their web site that they show they charge by the Mb. In my world, that is mega-bit. Other carriers usually charge by the MB (Mega-byte).. If they are charging by Mb you would have to mutiply thier rate by 8 to convert it to MB... I know it's a trivial issue to question if a letter is capital or lower case, but when it means a factor of 8, that is a BIG price difference...

Anyone know the real story?

PSIM · 07-01-2013, 21:43

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Originally Posted by squawk1200

Noticed a few folks posting here on how good the Pirhana data prices are. Maybe it's the engineer in me, but can anyone confirm that? I see on their web site that they show they charge by the Mb. In my world, that is mega-bit. Other carriers usually charge by the MB (Mega-byte).. If they are charging by Mb you would have to mutiply thier rate by 8 to convert it to MB... I know it's a trivial issue to question if a letter is capital or lower case, but when it means a factor of 8, that is a BIG price difference...

Anyone know the real story?

You are quite right it is a typo it should read MB.

Thank you for pointing this out.

gkeeper · 07-01-2013, 22:00

Dear o dear seen some points on this forum but the last comment takes the buiscuit Mb over MB every body else seems to understand, prehaps you need a hobby.

Stu · 26-12-2012, 15:21

Mostly they are purchased like land to resell. Sometimes the theory is to make money from roaming revenues. Occasionally it is a small town that just wants service and the big guys didn't think it was worth it.

Remember that the US started with a bunch of these companies and they were bought out. We did not do like most of the EU and grant licenses nationally. The theory at the outset was that the smaller licenses holders would have a greater incentive to cover their little plot of coverage area. Until roughly 2000, most Americans had plans like the folks in Canada, Mexico, and India do where we roamed if we got 80k from our homes.

Notice that Verizon Wireless holds a number of GSM licenses in the US even though they use the competing CDMA technology. In small towns where they have licenses, they will often through up "roamer nets" which are GSM networks solely designed to get roaming revenues from GSM visitors who travel through or visit these towns.

The United States is geographically as large as the EU but when you get away from the coasts, we have a large areas of land with very light population density. There is an opportunity for investors to develop this areas for roaming revenues and eventually to sell to the big guys. Additionally, several years ago our Justice Department granted an antitrust waiver to the major U.S. carriers to develop roaming collectives for desolate parts of our country. ATT, Sprint, Verizon, and TMobile can agree to jointly cover a desolate stretch of a North Dakota freeway and each invest in the collective. Lastly, a small amount of the US carriers are actually Indian Tribal Governments who function as semi-autonomous/self-governing regions in the US. In addition to raising revenues from roamers, they may have an aspect demonstrating self-autonomy over practicality.

I was looking at the Canadian list of small providers last night and there were a lot of tiny Canadian ones I never heard of. The idea of buying one of these to take advantage of Government mandated lower roaming rates is interesting. E.g. China Mobile buying the Artic GSM cooperative outside of Anchorage and letting China Mobile subscribers get FCC mandated domestic discounted roaming rates.

DRNewcomb · 01-01-2013, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Stu

Notice that Verizon Wireless holds a number of GSM licenses in the US even though they use the competing CDMA technology. In small towns where they have licenses, they will often through up "roamer nets" which are GSM networks solely designed to get roaming revenues from GSM visitors who travel through or visit these towns.

n.b. There are really no "GSM licenses", just RF licenses. Verizon got into the GSM business when the bought Western Wireless (or when they bought Alltel, who had bought Western Wireless) a GSM-850 carrier. Since they had the network up and running, they kept it operating for the roaming revenue. This was a good thing for ATT & T-Mobile customers, who in many places would have no service otherwise.

gkeeper · 31-12-2012, 17:06

Just pulled this off the Piranha forum:

Dear Customers, from the 31-12-2012, Piranha Mobile reduces the costs of Call-Off-Load and Call-Forwarding by approximately 15%-20%.
More price reductions, “COMING SOON” in 2013. Happy New Year from the Piranha Mobile Admin team.

If they have reduced prices today, i wonder what they are planing for 2013?.
Happy New Year to you all.

Stu · 08-01-2013, 03:47

I am a lawyer and wouldn't have thought about that! I have a client however who has a draft website going live and is paying employees and outside beta testers (small group) a bounty for errors, gaps, and omissions they find on the website. Despite serious proofing, it is interesting what they are finding.

PSIM · 11-01-2013, 01:02

Hi just for your info Piranha have reduced the cost of Data roaming in China by 50% effective from today

PSIM Admin

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squawk1200 (Offline) Member Official Member Posts: 43 Join Date: 08 May 2009 Country:	Piranha Mobile Data pricing - 07-01-2013, 20:57 Noticed a few folks posting here on how good the Pirhana data prices are. Maybe it's the engineer in me, but can anyone confirm that? I see on their web site that they show they charge by the Mb. In my world, that is mega-bit. Other carriers usually charge by the MB (Mega-byte).. If they are charging by Mb you would have to mutiply thier rate by 8 to convert it to MB... I know it's a trivial issue to question if a letter is capital or lower case, but when it means a factor of 8, that is a BIG price difference... Anyone know the real story?

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gkeeper (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 112 Join Date: 27 Sep 2012 Country:	07-01-2013, 22:00 Dear o dear seen some points on this forum but the last comment takes the buiscuit Mb over MB every body else seems to understand, prehaps you need a hobby.

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,091 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Detroit (formerly Dubai) Country:	26-12-2012, 15:21 Mostly they are purchased like land to resell. Sometimes the theory is to make money from roaming revenues. Occasionally it is a small town that just wants service and the big guys didn't think it was worth it. Remember that the US started with a bunch of these companies and they were bought out. We did not do like most of the EU and grant licenses nationally. The theory at the outset was that the smaller licenses holders would have a greater incentive to cover their little plot of coverage area. Until roughly 2000, most Americans had plans like the folks in Canada, Mexico, and India do where we roamed if we got 80k from our homes. Notice that Verizon Wireless holds a number of GSM licenses in the US even though they use the competing CDMA technology. In small towns where they have licenses, they will often through up "roamer nets" which are GSM networks solely designed to get roaming revenues from GSM visitors who travel through or visit these towns. The United States is geographically as large as the EU but when you get away from the coasts, we have a large areas of land with very light population density. There is an opportunity for investors to develop this areas for roaming revenues and eventually to sell to the big guys. Additionally, several years ago our Justice Department granted an antitrust waiver to the major U.S. carriers to develop roaming collectives for desolate parts of our country. ATT, Sprint, Verizon, and TMobile can agree to jointly cover a desolate stretch of a North Dakota freeway and each invest in the collective. Lastly, a small amount of the US carriers are actually Indian Tribal Governments who function as semi-autonomous/self-governing regions in the US. In addition to raising revenues from roamers, they may have an aspect demonstrating self-autonomy over practicality. I was looking at the Canadian list of small providers last night and there were a lot of tiny Canadian ones I never heard of. The idea of buying one of these to take advantage of Government mandated lower roaming rates is interesting. E.g. China Mobile buying the Artic GSM cooperative outside of Anchorage and letting China Mobile subscribers get FCC mandated domestic discounted roaming rates. Last edited by Stu; 26-12-2012 at 15:47..

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gkeeper (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 112 Join Date: 27 Sep 2012 Country:	31-12-2012, 17:06 Just pulled this off the Piranha forum: Dear Customers, from the 31-12-2012, Piranha Mobile reduces the costs of Call-Off-Load and Call-Forwarding by approximately 15%-20%. More price reductions, “COMING SOON” in 2013. Happy New Year from the Piranha Mobile Admin team. If they have reduced prices today, i wonder what they are planing for 2013?. Happy New Year to you all.

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,091 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Detroit (formerly Dubai) Country:	08-01-2013, 03:47 I am a lawyer and wouldn't have thought about that! I have a client however who has a draft website going live and is paying employees and outside beta testers (small group) a bounty for errors, gaps, and omissions they find on the website. Despite serious proofing, it is interesting what they are finding.

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PSIM (Offline) Member Advanced Member Posts: 57 Join Date: 05 Jul 2012 Country:	11-01-2013, 01:02 Hi just for your info Piranha have reduced the cost of Data roaming in China by 50% effective from today PSIM Admin