German Mvno's

[andy]

Yep - Blauworld's rates are good for landlines, and without messing about with callthrough, but for foreign mobiles ...

UK mobile would be 29c/min, 15c connect with BW

it's 8c/min + vat with VC, plus the Sunsim 8c or Youni 6c rate

I can't see anything about connection fees for Sunsim or Youni

[dg7feq]

Originally Posted by andy

Yep - Blauworld's rates are good for landlines, and without messing about with callthrough, but for foreign mobiles ...

UK mobile would be 29c/min, 15c connect with BW

it's 8c/min + vat with VC, plus the Sunsim 8c or Youni 6c rate

I can't see anything about connection fees for Sunsim or Youni

You're right. When there is a high demand on calling mobiles then callthrough via VC is a good option of course. BTW: Voipbuster gives callthrough-numbers as well. Maybe there are interesting rates there as well.

Chris

[andy]

Voipbuster has had the callthrough for some time, and Freecall, Voipcheap, Voipdiscount and Voipstunt introduced it about 2 weeks ago for 8 countries

I think Voipcheap has the best mobile tariffs, unless they were to introduce a number for JustVoip as well.

[andy]

I got Sunsim, and I notice that the number is one digit longer than usual - 0157020xxxxx vs my Vodafone 0173822xxxx

I'm wondering if this is why there is some difficulty reaching it from some providers, who may have a dialplan that does not allow for this

Do other e-plus and their mnvo SIMs have these longer numbers, or is this something gradually being introduced across all German networks?

This shouldn't matter too much for me if I only dial out via the Voipcheap callthrough access number, but I wonder what will happen if I attempt Voipcheap sms callback

[dg7feq]

Originally Posted by andy

I got Sunsim, and I notice that the number is one digit longer than usual - 0157020xxxxx vs my Vodafone 0173822xxxx

I'm wondering if this is why there is some difficulty reaching it from some providers, who may have a dialplan that does not allow for this

Do other e-plus and their mnvo SIMs have these longer numbers, or is this something gradually being introduced across all German networks?

This shouldn't matter too much for me if I only dial out via the Voipcheap callthrough access number, but I wonder what will happen if I attempt Voipcheap sms callback

the 4 digits prefixes are full.
they start now with 5 digits - e.g. 01520 for Vodafone, 01577 for e-plus and 01570 for vistream...

Chris

[Gryphone]

Originally Posted by andy

I'm wondering if this is why there is some difficulty reaching it from some providers, who may have a dialplan that does not allow for this

I haven't heard of any troubles reaching these 13-digit numbers yet, however the +49-157 prefix is pretty new, when it was introduced there was some trouble reaching it with some providers, these problems should have been solved by now though.

Do other e-plus and their mnvo SIMs have these longer numbers, or is this something gradually being introduced across all German networks?

E-Plus was the last operator to introduce 13-digit numbers, T-Mobile and D2 already used them since 2001, O2 has had them since 2003.
However you can still get a 12-digit number, especially when you sign up for a contract you'll probably get one and even with most prepaid cards there's a chance of getting one.

[snaimon]

They asked me to update my credit card as it is expiring. Sent them an email which they promptly answered with something RELATED but not specific to my question. Asked me to CALL for any followup. I did this morning. It seems there system will not take any US-based credit card. Funny, that is how I bought it in the first place 2 or 3 years ago and how I made several recharges. The customer care rep was going to check and email me back. Did not happen today. They only accept European-based credit cards.

Stan

[dg7feq]

Originally Posted by snaimon

They asked me to update my credit card as it is expiring. Sent them an email which they promptly answered with something RELATED but not specific to my question. Asked me to CALL for any followup. I did this morning. It seems there system will not take any US-based credit card. Funny, that is how I bought it in the first place 2 or 3 years ago and how I made several recharges. The customer care rep was going to check and email me back. Did not happen today. They only accept European-based credit cards.

Stan

The credit card billing system from eplus is crap. We can not recharge our company SIMYO-cards by credit card anymore either (we have about 100 pcs of them running). eplus has a global limit for each credit card number. If you are over this limit it will never accept this card anymore. We reached the limit (i think it was 2500 Euro) some months ago and now we do manual bank transfers for each card.

Chris

[Effendi]

A friend of mine on O2 DE postpaid has a longer number too...

[Motel75]

Any idea why they never reassigned the C-Netz prefix (0161)?