B&YOU: carte prépayée - Page 6

NFH · 20-11-2012, 08:18

I've received a PM in a UK forum saying that even a card issued by a French bank was rejected by B&You (for delivery to a French address). I'm therefore evaluating whether a prepaid credit card from the French post office is the best option as I might load money on the card and be unable to spend it.

kuba.g · 21-11-2012, 15:28

Well... the money could also simply be spent on other (daily) purchases, right? Then we only loose the 10€ the card costs. The best way would be to spend it on purchases denominated in EUR. Living in the UK that might be a bit more of a hassle, but for example I have the possibility to cash out such a card in euros without any costs.

NFH · 23-12-2012, 17:59

Just a quick update. I'm trying to find a prepaid credit card with a French BIN, as I think this is what B&You are checking for. This can be checked at https://www.bindb.com/bin-database.html

VladS · 23-12-2012, 20:53

Transcash VISA has an FR BIN: 4577 37

Carte bancaire prépayée rechargeable TRANSCASH VISA®

NFH · 26-12-2012, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by VladS

Transcash VISA has an FR BIN: 4577 37

Carte bancaire prépayée rechargeable TRANSCASH VISA®

Thanks for this suggestion. I quite like the small British bank behind this, Raphaels Bank. Although they are the issuer of Ryanair's ill-fated prepaid cards, they also have a small network of EUR-denominated cash machines in London which allow EUR account holders of other banks to withdraw cash at face value without any charges.

The initial purchase price of €9.90 and ability to top up makes it worth considering. Although I don't see why top-ups by bank transfer should be charged at 3%, this isn't going to adversely affect the total price paid by each of us.

NFH · 29-12-2012, 11:57

I managed to get through to B&You on the phone, by entering a failed order number (despite failed orders not usually giving an order number). They assured me that any physical French Visa card or MasterCard (not an e-Carte Bleue for example) should work. Thanks to VladS, I am therefore planning to buy a Trans Cash prepaid Visa card for €9.90, which has the crucial French BIN. Fortunately I now have a French address at which I can receive post (but addressed only in my name), so I can make sure the Visa card works before paying for the mail forwarding service for everyone else's SIM cards. The disadvantage of the Trans Cash card is that they charge 3% for loading money on to it, but the advantage is that it's reloadable unlike La Poste's Carte Cadeau.

If you would like a B&You SIM card and haven't yet PM'd me with your e-mail address, please do so now.

kuba.g · 03-01-2013, 16:28

It's incredible how restrictive they are...

Anyhow, I still think we should give it a go. Worst case scenario is that we loose the money that the card costs.
BTW, should there be a need to cash out a card in euro's without loosing value - I'm willing to help (I can do so here without any problems)

VladS · 03-01-2013, 23:06

My first experience with my b&you card wasn't stellar. I was in transit through Paris late last year and tried to use it to make a few local calls and check email. Even though my devices connected to the Bouygues network, both inbound and outbound calls failed and data sessions would not connect. I used my french Lycamobile card (also an Bouygues MVNO) and had no issues placing calls.

I just made it back to Paris tonight and the b&you card is back to life and works as expected.

Motel75 · 19-01-2013, 15:55

Someone's offering these on eBay for 12.95 (with inflated postage - 5 EUR outside France), so if it's not possible from one of you, I might get one this way instead. But - pardon if this has been explained already - how do I recharge it within the first 30 days (from Germany or elsewhere outside F)?

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/121050583584?...84.m1423.l2649

VladS · 19-01-2013, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motel75

Someone's offering these on eBay for 12.95 (with inflated postage - 5 EUR outside France), so if it's not possible from one of you, I might get one this way instead. But - pardon if this has been explained already - how do I recharge it within the first 30 days (from Germany or elsewhere outside F)?

eBay - Achetez et vendez vos objets neufs ou d’occasion

It's the same chap I got mine from.

As for the top-up, you can use a Bouygues top-up voucher. To top up call 630 from France or +33-981-660-630 from elsewhere.

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NFH (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 322 Join Date: 11 Apr 2012 Location: London Country:	20-11-2012, 08:18 I've received a PM in a UK forum saying that even a card issued by a French bank was rejected by B&You (for delivery to a French address). I'm therefore evaluating whether a prepaid credit card from the French post office is the best option as I might load money on the card and be unable to spend it.

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kuba.g (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 228 Join Date: 24 Oct 2010 Country:	21-11-2012, 15:28 Well... the money could also simply be spent on other (daily) purchases, right? Then we only loose the 10€ the card costs. The best way would be to spend it on purchases denominated in EUR. Living in the UK that might be a bit more of a hassle, but for example I have the possibility to cash out such a card in euros without any costs. Mobile internet sim cards: INT: abroadband, NL: Simyo, bliep, BE: Colruyt Mobile, MEDIONmobile, LUX: Orange, PL: mBank Mobile, DE: Congstar, MEDIONmobile, IE: Vodafone, CH: OK Mobil, SwissCom, SE: Telia, ES: MásMovil, GR: Cosmote, IT: TIM, RO: Vodafone, RS: mt:s, BY: Privet, UA: Kievstar, MD: Moldcell Feel free to consult me about sim cards in the Benelux and Poland.*

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NFH (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 322 Join Date: 11 Apr 2012 Location: London Country:	23-12-2012, 17:59 Just a quick update. I'm trying to find a prepaid credit card with a French BIN, as I think this is what B&You are checking for. This can be checked at https://www.bindb.com/bin-database.html

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VladS (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 590 Join Date: 22 Jun 2004 Country:	23-12-2012, 20:53 Transcash VISA has an FR BIN: 4577 37 Carte bancaire prépayée rechargeable TRANSCASH VISA® VladS Mobile phones: iPhone 5, Blackberry 9900, Nexus S, Samsung S3322 duos Mobile data cards: Huawei E587u-5, Huawei E583c, Huawei E160 Postpaid SIMs: CA: Fido, Wind; INTL: Telna Prepaid SIMs: DE: Fonic, Lidl; AT: yesss!, bob; UK: O2; US: AT&T; RO: Orange, Vodafone; FR: b&you, Lycamobile; NL: Lycamobile; BE: Lycamobile, Jim Mobile; CL: Entel; MX: Telcel; INTL: eKit Blue, eKit Yellow Dead SIMs: too many to list

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NFH (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 322 Join Date: 11 Apr 2012 Location: London Country:	29-12-2012, 11:57 I managed to get through to B&You on the phone, by entering a failed order number (despite failed orders not usually giving an order number). They assured me that any physical French Visa card or MasterCard (not an e-Carte Bleue for example) should work. Thanks to VladS, I am therefore planning to buy a Trans Cash prepaid Visa card for €9.90, which has the crucial French BIN. Fortunately I now have a French address at which I can receive post (but addressed only in my name), so I can make sure the Visa card works before paying for the mail forwarding service for everyone else's SIM cards. The disadvantage of the Trans Cash card is that they charge 3% for loading money on to it, but the advantage is that it's reloadable unlike La Poste's Carte Cadeau. If you would like a B&You SIM card and haven't yet PM'd me with your e-mail address, please do so now.

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kuba.g (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 228 Join Date: 24 Oct 2010 Country:	03-01-2013, 16:28 It's incredible how restrictive they are... Anyhow, I still think we should give it a go. Worst case scenario is that we loose the money that the card costs. BTW, should there be a need to cash out a card in euro's without loosing value - I'm willing to help (I can do so here without any problems) Mobile internet sim cards: INT: abroadband, NL: Simyo, bliep, BE: Colruyt Mobile, MEDIONmobile, LUX: Orange, PL: mBank Mobile, DE: Congstar, MEDIONmobile, IE: Vodafone, CH: OK Mobil, SwissCom, SE: Telia, ES: MásMovil, GR: Cosmote, IT: TIM, RO: Vodafone, RS: mt:s, BY: Privet, UA: Kievstar, MD: Moldcell Feel free to consult me about sim cards in the Benelux and Poland.*

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VladS (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 590 Join Date: 22 Jun 2004 Country:	03-01-2013, 23:06 My first experience with my b&you card wasn't stellar. I was in transit through Paris late last year and tried to use it to make a few local calls and check email. Even though my devices connected to the Bouygues network, both inbound and outbound calls failed and data sessions would not connect. I used my french Lycamobile card (also an Bouygues MVNO) and had no issues placing calls. I just made it back to Paris tonight and the b&you card is back to life and works as expected. VladS Mobile phones: iPhone 5, Blackberry 9900, Nexus S, Samsung S3322 duos Mobile data cards: Huawei E587u-5, Huawei E583c, Huawei E160 Postpaid SIMs: CA: Fido, Wind; INTL: Telna Prepaid SIMs: DE: Fonic, Lidl; AT: yesss!, bob; UK: O2; US: AT&T; RO: Orange, Vodafone; FR: b&you, Lycamobile; NL: Lycamobile; BE: Lycamobile, Jim Mobile; CL: Entel; MX: Telcel; INTL: eKit Blue, eKit Yellow Dead SIMs: too many to list

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Motel75 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 573 Join Date: 15 Jun 2006 Location: Berlin Country:	19-01-2013, 15:55 Someone's offering these on eBay for 12.95 (with inflated postage - 5 EUR outside France), so if it's not possible from one of you, I might get one this way instead. But - pardon if this has been explained already - how do I recharge it within the first 30 days (from Germany or elsewhere outside F)? http://www.ebay.fr/itm/121050583584?...84.m1423.l2649 Current DE: Vodafone, Netzklub; PL: Klucz, Virgin; UK: Giffgaff, Vodafone; US: T-Mobile; CA: 7-Eleven; IT: Vodafone; UA: Kyivstar; FR: Bouygues; GR: Vodafone Former DE: Vodafone, T-Mobile, O2, Blauworld, 01051mobile, Solomo, Lycamobile, Simyo, Congstar, Fonic, Edeka Mobile, Lidl Mobile; PL: Heyah, Era, Virgin, Sami Swoi, Orange, POP, iPlus, Carrefour Mova, Telepin Mobi, Play, Lycamobile, T-Mobile; UK: Vodafone, T-Mobile, Virgin; US: T-Mobile, AT&T, Lycamobile; CZ: Vodafone, Oskar; ES: Lebara; GR: Vodafone, Wind; UA: Vodafone; IL: Orange; TR: Turkcell