Could T-Mobile (U.S.) new global plan doom the global SIM card business? - Page 3

snidely · 26-10-2013, 02:32

Stu -
We'll be in China which only has 3G on one of its 2 carriers. I'll know which one TM roams on (both?) in a couple days. No HSPA there, yet. Only used wifi calling and Piranha when there last.

Stu · 26-10-2013, 17:24

Other places I get foreign DIDs are mydivert, didww, etc. I'd love to create a members only part of this forum where we can help each other out on foreign DIDs when needed. I run IVRs on many of my DIDs and if I know you, I have no problem forwarding some calls for you to a cheap termination point or SIP URI. Conversely, I have a few that I occasionally need. Since half of us have known each other for years, I think this would be an easy thing to do.

Snidely, sorry but I don't Turkmenistan DIDs laying around.

Stu · 26-10-2013, 21:56

Vlad is correct. Calling +1-212-555-1212, ext 1 rings my mobile, ext 2 rings my wife's, ext. 3 rings Joe Bloe. Calls from a specific mobile (determined by caller-id) drops you to a US dialtone, etc.

rfranzq · 27-10-2013, 00:11

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Originally Posted by Stu

Vlad is correct. Calling +1-212-555-1212, ext 1 rings my mobile, ext 2 rings my wife's, ext. 3 rings Joe Bloe. Calls from a specific mobile (determined by caller-id) drops you to a US dialtone, etc.

Wow. Thanks for clarifying. I really thought it was the one I suggested.
Now I know more than yesterday.

Stu · 27-10-2013, 00:37

Another acronym is DISA -- Direct Inbound System Access. Since I have an Asterisks box (like Vlad and some others on this forum), it is often a good deal to temporarily purchase an inbound number in a country and be my own calling card service.

There are area also a number of free DIDs available for residents of various countries, but it is often a chore to get them when you aren't a resident. Additionally, you often have more capacity than you need. For example, my pay Australia DID which I use for calling card services for my brother can handle ten simultaneous inbound calls. It would be child's play to loan a connection to someone visiting Oz with a Piranha or Telna SIM which allows SIP URIs. At the same time, I don't want to go in business and want to know who I am dealing with.

snidely · 29-10-2013, 12:02

just wanted to report T-Mobile roaming is working perfectly in China. 7 family members 5 of which are on TM. Texting a lot. Data works better/faster than I thot. Voice is excellent both to u.s. and local.

rfranzq · 29-10-2013, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by snidely

just wanted to report T-Mobile roaming is working perfectly in China.

That is good to hear.

In response to the original question.
Only for people in the USA with T-Mobile.
But it seems to be a really good value for them.
Will people in the US switch for this? Perhaps some.
Will non-USA people be able to get it? Not too easily,
although perhaps for some Canadians it will be worth it.

Will/Can any other american carrier match this?

DRNewcomb · 30-10-2013, 01:19

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Originally Posted by rfranzq

Will people in the US switch for this? Perhaps some.
........
Will/Can any other american carrier match this?

Cheap international roaming has not been much of a selling point for US wireless carriers in the past. International roaming been almost an afterthought and treated as a luxury item. American consumers have been willing to accept overpriced international roaming (with the exception of a few you find here). I think the word will spread but understand that T-Mobile's rates are not always the best. On some cruise ships they are much higher than ATT's.

Almost any carrier can match these rates. The only question is if they will choose to.

davidtheprof · 30-10-2013, 13:07

This might help T-Mobile compete better in more affluent segments and business customers who travel more. I've always gone with T-Mobile because of cheaper plans and ease of switching sims (easy unlock policy), but it's generally been seen as second tier carrier, with Verizon being 'premium' - despite their US only (almost!) non-GSM technology.

kctopitz · 02-11-2013, 14:50

As I see it, this is a great perk if you're a US resident already on or considering T-Mobile's monthly plan ($50/month), especially for it's unlimited data. Even if it isn't at full 3G speeds, that alone would allow you to check email and do all the basics without concern of how much data you're using and the associated cost (previously very expensive). No other international SIM card can offer that as far as I know, and I can see this hurting those guys as far as U.S. customers go. Hopefully this will force them to be more competitive and start rolling out their own data packages, rather than offering data by the megabyte.

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snidely (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 451 Join Date: 09 May 2005 Location: Berkeley, California and Miami Country:	26-10-2013, 02:32 Stu - We'll be in China which only has 3G on one of its 2 carriers. I'll know which one TM roams on (both?) in a couple days. No HSPA there, yet. Only used wifi calling and Piranha when there last. Make use of T-M's UMA/wifi free calling from any place in the world with access to wifi. I use an LG G6, wife an S7) A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20¢/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries. My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,091 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Detroit (formerly Dubai) Country:	26-10-2013, 17:24 Other places I get foreign DIDs are mydivert, didww, etc. I'd love to create a members only part of this forum where we can help each other out on foreign DIDs when needed. I run IVRs on many of my DIDs and if I know you, I have no problem forwarding some calls for you to a cheap termination point or SIP URI. Conversely, I have a few that I occasionally need. Since half of us have known each other for years, I think this would be an easy thing to do. Snidely, sorry but I don't Turkmenistan DIDs laying around.

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,091 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Detroit (formerly Dubai) Country:	26-10-2013, 21:56 Vlad is correct. Calling +1-212-555-1212, ext 1 rings my mobile, ext 2 rings my wife's, ext. 3 rings Joe Bloe. Calls from a specific mobile (determined by caller-id) drops you to a US dialtone, etc.

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,091 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Detroit (formerly Dubai) Country:	27-10-2013, 00:37 Another acronym is DISA -- Direct Inbound System Access. Since I have an Asterisks box (like Vlad and some others on this forum), it is often a good deal to temporarily purchase an inbound number in a country and be my own calling card service. There are area also a number of free DIDs available for residents of various countries, but it is often a chore to get them when you aren't a resident. Additionally, you often have more capacity than you need. For example, my pay Australia DID which I use for calling card services for my brother can handle ten simultaneous inbound calls. It would be child's play to loan a connection to someone visiting Oz with a Piranha or Telna SIM which allows SIP URIs. At the same time, I don't want to go in business and want to know who I am dealing with.

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snidely (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 451 Join Date: 09 May 2005 Location: Berkeley, California and Miami Country:	29-10-2013, 12:02 just wanted to report T-Mobile roaming is working perfectly in China. 7 family members 5 of which are on TM. Texting a lot. Data works better/faster than I thot. Voice is excellent both to u.s. and local. Make use of T-M's UMA/wifi free calling from any place in the world with access to wifi. I use an LG G6, wife an S7) A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20¢/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries. My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.

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davidtheprof (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Fan Posts: 159 Join Date: 05 Jun 2011 Country:	30-10-2013, 13:07 This might help T-Mobile compete better in more affluent segments and business customers who travel more. I've always gone with T-Mobile because of cheaper plans and ease of switching sims (easy unlock policy), but it's generally been seen as second tier carrier, with Verizon being 'premium' - despite their US only (almost!) non-GSM technology.

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kctopitz (Offline) Member Advanced Member Posts: 94 Join Date: 05 Jan 2008 Country:	02-11-2013, 14:50 As I see it, this is a great perk if you're a US resident already on or considering T-Mobile's monthly plan ($50/month), especially for it's unlimited data. Even if it isn't at full 3G speeds, that alone would allow you to check email and do all the basics without concern of how much data you're using and the associated cost (previously very expensive). No other international SIM card can offer that as far as I know, and I can see this hurting those guys as far as U.S. customers go. Hopefully this will force them to be more competitive and start rolling out their own data packages, rather than offering data by the megabyte.