Can One Call Betamax Gateways In Germany on German Flat Rate Plans? - Page 3

inquisitor · 22-04-2009, 08:52

Those consumer protection organizations are sueing providers permanently, but the blocking to those access numbers seems to be legal, as there are corresponding clauses in the terms & conditions of O2 limiting usage to direct calling, which justifies those blockages.

petkow · 21-07-2009, 09:57

Does anyone have any updates on the currrent situation?

From what I can see now:
EPlus, Congstar, Vodafone and TMobil are all ok to call Betamax.
The only problems are with o2, Tchibo and Fonic. ???

Is this still the case?

inquisitor · 21-08-2009, 23:01

Except for few devices sold by T-Mobile for a limited period, I never saw SIM- or netlocked phones sold with postpaid contracts.

And regarding the VoIP-ban, you may have missed O2's announcment this week, according to which they will officially allow VoIP without any surcharge.

However I agree with you, when it comes to the preference of prepaid over postpaid. Postpaid was interesting in the past due to the highly subsidized handset prices, but those subsidies have decreased significantly, so it doesn't pay off to bond yourself two years to the mostly unattractive postpaid tariffs.

9eor9 · **@evan -** 22-08-2009, 19:24

Travel to France, try to find a cheap mobile solution and you'll feel happy to be a german......

asdf0987 · 14-10-2009, 13:50

O2 does not allow calls to Betamax since long time now.
Recently on 12-10-2009, E-plus - BASE blocked calls to Betamax completely. I was able to call in morning of 12th oct and from the afternoon all calls are blocked. Now I am stuck with BASE as I have 2 years contract.

Is it legal that any company can block a landline number on a landline flat tariff ?? See the news.

German operators split over mobile VoIP strategy - FierceWireless:Europe

EU looks set to force operators to carry mobile VoIP traffic - FierceWireless:Europe

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inquisitor (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Professionist Posts: 1,399 Join Date: 15 Nov 2006 Country:	22-04-2009, 08:52 Those consumer protection organizations are sueing providers permanently, but the blocking to those access numbers seems to be legal, as there are corresponding clauses in the terms & conditions of O2 limiting usage to direct calling, which justifies those blockages. terminals: Samsung: Galaxy S5 DuoS (G900FD); BLU: Win HD LTE; Nokia: 1200; Asus: Fonepad 7 ME372CG; Huawei data: E3372, Vodafone R201, K3765, E1762; postpaid: O2 on Business XL; prepaid: DE: Aldi Talk, Lidl; UK: 3; BG: MTel, vivacom; RU: MTS; RS: MTS; UAE: du Tourist SIM; INT'L: toggle mobile VoIP: sipgate.de (German DID); sipgate.co.uk (British DID); ukddi.com (British DID); sipcall.ch (Swiss DID); megafon.bg (Bulgarian DID); InterVoip.com

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petkow (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Pioneer Posts: 696 Join Date: 01 Aug 2006 Location: Madrid Country:	21-07-2009, 09:57 Does anyone have any updates on the currrent situation? From what I can see now: EPlus, Congstar, Vodafone and TMobil are all ok to call Betamax. The only problems are with o2, Tchibo and Fonic. ??? Is this still the case?

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inquisitor (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Professionist Posts: 1,399 Join Date: 15 Nov 2006 Country:	21-08-2009, 23:01 Except for few devices sold by T-Mobile for a limited period, I never saw SIM- or netlocked phones sold with postpaid contracts. And regarding the VoIP-ban, you may have missed O2's announcment this week, according to which they will officially allow VoIP without any surcharge. However I agree with you, when it comes to the preference of prepaid over postpaid. Postpaid was interesting in the past due to the highly subsidized handset prices, but those subsidies have decreased significantly, so it doesn't pay off to bond yourself two years to the mostly unattractive postpaid tariffs. terminals: Samsung: Galaxy S5 DuoS (G900FD); BLU: Win HD LTE; Nokia: 1200; Asus: Fonepad 7 ME372CG; Huawei data: E3372, Vodafone R201, K3765, E1762; postpaid: O2 on Business XL; prepaid: DE: Aldi Talk, Lidl; UK: 3; BG: MTel, vivacom; RU: MTS; RS: MTS; UAE: du Tourist SIM; INT'L: toggle mobile VoIP: sipgate.de (German DID); sipgate.co.uk (British DID); ukddi.com (British DID); sipcall.ch (Swiss DID); megafon.bg (Bulgarian DID); InterVoip.com

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9eor9 (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 223 Join Date: 10 Apr 2009 Country:	@evan - 22-08-2009, 19:24 Travel to France, try to find a cheap mobile solution and you'll feel happy to be a german......

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asdf0987 (Offline) Junior Member Newbie Posts: 1 Join Date: 14 Oct 2009 Country:	14-10-2009, 13:50 O2 does not allow calls to Betamax since long time now. Recently on 12-10-2009, E-plus - BASE blocked calls to Betamax completely. I was able to call in morning of 12th oct and from the afternoon all calls are blocked. Now I am stuck with BASE as I have 2 years contract. Is it legal that any company can block a landline number on a landline flat tariff ?? See the news. German operators split over mobile VoIP strategy - FierceWireless:Europe EU looks set to force operators to carry mobile VoIP traffic - FierceWireless:Europe