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snidely · 28-02-2011, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg7feq

Yeah, but for 1 MB each day

Then the calculation is right.

Chris

Even at that, it could be worth while to set up a "system" to route calls via "something" like Skype. I am not sophisticated enuf to do that - but could follow instructions if someone posted how to set up a method to route voice calls over a 100% data connection - which the Abroadband SIM is. If I read the Skype site correctly, they only have an app for Verizon phones in the U.S. Google Talk (which seems to be a VOIP version of Google Voice) says they don't have an app for mobiles "at this time".
Anybody have any other EASY to use suggestions for setting up voice calling over data?
Even if a voice of data call burns 400-500 Kb/second - you are talking about spending 35-45 cents/min. As a comparison, to call back to the U.S. using Truphone costs 86 cents/min. Using a U.S. SIM from TMobile or ATT costs $1/min.

...mike

snidely · 26-02-2011, 19:52

Chris -
So, it sounds like this SIM might be suitable for roaming for voice as well as inexpensive data. They cover 50 countries, most of Europe and the main places in Asia. Except for U.S. and Canada, nothing in the Americas.
The initial cost because of expensive shipping is close to $50. Cheaper if one is in Europe.

...mike

...mike

tux · 05-03-2011, 10:30

abroadband is a postpaid service as far as i know

Bossman · 05-03-2011, 16:38

Skype is definitely not locked to verizon (how can it). I have it on my iphone4 and my nokia E63 and works flawlessly on both.

snidely · 05-03-2011, 19:23

Here is the message I get on my BB when I attempt to log on to skype.com/m:
====
Sorry, Skype mobile™ is not available for your phone.

Upgrade to one of Verizon's best-selling BlackBerry® and Android™ 3G smartphones.

Visit Download Skype mobile? to your Verizon Wireless phone today! to learn more.

Help

Skype.com
=================
...mike

dg7feq · 06-03-2011, 11:31

looks like on the BB you will have to google for a cracked installer package

Stu · 06-03-2011, 14:27

I'm wondering what happens if someone connects a US blackberry to a foreign wifi spot and tries to download SKype there. I'm wondering if someone inside the US and someone outside the US should look at the same page on Skype and see if they are seeing a different page. Inside the US, the Skype for Android page looks very Verizon-centric:

http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-...obile/android/

If someone doesn't beat me to the punch, I will pull the page from a Canadian IP address in a day or two and compare the results.

dg7feq · 06-03-2011, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu

I'm wondering what happens if someone connects a US blackberry to a foreign wifi spot and tries to download SKype there. I'm wondering if someone inside the US and someone outside the US should look at the same page on Skype and see if they are seeing a different page. Inside the US, the Skype for Android page looks very Verizon-centric:

Skype mobile? for Android? smartphones

If someone doesn't beat me to the punch, I will pull the page from a Canadian IP address in a day or two and compare the results.

If i look on the german website they dont even have Blackberries in the list of supported devices. Seems that verizon made a good deal with them...

Chris

andy · 06-03-2011, 16:55

There are different versions of Skype, depending on the relationship between Skype and the network you are using.

On networks like 3, and I assume also the deal with Verizon (but I could be wrong for that part), the specific application there is using mainly callthrough on an access number which has been zero-tariffed by the network, plus a small amount of data for presence info, and this data is also free. As it is mainly an ordinary phone call, then it should even still work with only a 2g signal, such as the 2g roaming arrangements which the various 3 networks have for areas where their 3g signal is patchy or non-existent, e.g. 3 UK on Orange UK, 3 Ireland on Vodafone Ireland.

That is a customised version of a program called iSkoot, and there is also a general version, also based on callthrough, but then the access number is a call charged at the network's tariff, plus a bit of data I suppose. However, a brief search to check on this shows me that this was being shut down a couple of weeks ago. This closedown doesn't seem to affect the custom 3/Skype application, which is still working.

Skype also offers, or did offer but no longer seems to, its own similar program called Skype Lite, also based on callthrough access, or so it seemed from the description. That seemed to available for a fairly wide range of phones

In addition, Skype offers an arrangement called Skype To Go, which seems to be creating a different number to call for each contact, so that number will again be charged at the mobile network's tariff.

But what is being looked for in the context of this thread is a Skype application which uses only 3g data to make the call, on top of course of using wi-fi when available. I believe that when I looked at this a while ago, there was some ambiguity about which phones it could be used with, as it didn't seem to be ubiquitous.

I installed it on an E51 a year or two ago, but it didn't seem to be in offer for all Symbian phones at that time. I have scarcely used it, so certainly can't be counted an expert. In addition, for a while, Fring and Nimbuzz clients could be used with Skype accounts, which would have helped for phones where no Skype client was in offer, but these agreements have been ended, with stated reasons which seem to imply differences of opinion or interest between the companies.

Given that things seem to be changing every few months, and it was fairly difficult to find some of these things anyway - I can remember ambiguities between what 3 and Skype were saying, and links from one's website to the other and a dead page at the other end (or different 3/Skype versions on different phones handling for instance caller ID differently) - it's no wonder it's a bit tricky to keep up with what is going on with all of this ......... so maybe SIP is easier.

Stu · 06-03-2011, 18:48

True VOIP on a Blackberry used to be an impossibility and is just starting to be rolled out. My wife has a Torch and I've been playing with it on that phone. It is getting close on wifi, but I haven't been happy over 3g. Conversely, my iPhone works like a champ over 3g. I presume Androids are just as good. As we get duo-core phones, it will only get better.

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snidely (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 451 Join Date: 09 May 2005 Location: Berkeley, California and Miami Country:	26-02-2011, 19:52 Chris - So, it sounds like this SIM might be suitable for roaming for voice as well as inexpensive data. They cover 50 countries, most of Europe and the main places in Asia. Except for U.S. and Canada, nothing in the Americas. The initial cost because of expensive shipping is close to $50. Cheaper if one is in Europe. ...mike ...mike Make use of T-M's UMA/wifi free calling from any place in the world with access to wifi. I use an LG G6, wife an S7) A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20¢/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries. My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.

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tux (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 250 Join Date: 28 Jan 2011 Country:	05-03-2011, 10:30 abroadband is a postpaid service as far as i know

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Bossman (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Professionist Posts: 1,257 Join Date: 22 Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Country:	05-03-2011, 16:38 Skype is definitely not locked to verizon (how can it). I have it on my iphone4 and my nokia E63 and works flawlessly on both. Phones: Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, Samsung Galaxy A50, ASUS zenfone 3, Sim cards: AT&T (Contract), 3 UK, Piranha Mobile

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snidely (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Expert Posts: 451 Join Date: 09 May 2005 Location: Berkeley, California and Miami Country:	05-03-2011, 19:23 Here is the message I get on my BB when I attempt to log on to skype.com/m: ==== Sorry, Skype mobile™ is not available for your phone. Upgrade to one of Verizon's best-selling BlackBerry® and Android™ 3G smartphones. Visit Download Skype mobile? to your Verizon Wireless phone today! to learn more. Help Skype.com ================= ...mike Make use of T-M's UMA/wifi free calling from any place in the world with access to wifi. I use an LG G6, wife an S7) A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20¢/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries. My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.

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dg7feq (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,164 Join Date: 04 Feb 2006 Location: Germany Country:	06-03-2011, 11:31 looks like on the BB you will have to google for a cracked installer package Germany: o2 blue all-in L, simquadrat Thailand: truemove (phone+sms+wifi) International: xxSim+372, toggle +44/+49/+41/+31 Phones: Huawei Mate7, Huawei P9

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,091 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Detroit (formerly Dubai) Country:	06-03-2011, 14:27 I'm wondering what happens if someone connects a US blackberry to a foreign wifi spot and tries to download SKype there. I'm wondering if someone inside the US and someone outside the US should look at the same page on Skype and see if they are seeing a different page. Inside the US, the Skype for Android page looks very Verizon-centric: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-...obile/android/ If someone doesn't beat me to the punch, I will pull the page from a Canadian IP address in a day or two and compare the results. Last edited by Stu; 06-03-2011 at 14:49..

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andy (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Prophet Posts: 2,128 Join Date: 10 Dec 2004 Country:	06-03-2011, 16:55 There are different versions of Skype, depending on the relationship between Skype and the network you are using. On networks like 3, and I assume also the deal with Verizon (but I could be wrong for that part), the specific application there is using mainly callthrough on an access number which has been zero-tariffed by the network, plus a small amount of data for presence info, and this data is also free. As it is mainly an ordinary phone call, then it should even still work with only a 2g signal, such as the 2g roaming arrangements which the various 3 networks have for areas where their 3g signal is patchy or non-existent, e.g. 3 UK on Orange UK, 3 Ireland on Vodafone Ireland. That is a customised version of a program called iSkoot, and there is also a general version, also based on callthrough, but then the access number is a call charged at the network's tariff, plus a bit of data I suppose. However, a brief search to check on this shows me that this was being shut down a couple of weeks ago. This closedown doesn't seem to affect the custom 3/Skype application, which is still working. Skype also offers, or did offer but no longer seems to, its own similar program called Skype Lite, also based on callthrough access, or so it seemed from the description. That seemed to available for a fairly wide range of phones In addition, Skype offers an arrangement called Skype To Go, which seems to be creating a different number to call for each contact, so that number will again be charged at the mobile network's tariff. But what is being looked for in the context of this thread is a Skype application which uses only 3g data to make the call, on top of course of using wi-fi when available. I believe that when I looked at this a while ago, there was some ambiguity about which phones it could be used with, as it didn't seem to be ubiquitous. I installed it on an E51 a year or two ago, but it didn't seem to be in offer for all Symbian phones at that time. I have scarcely used it, so certainly can't be counted an expert. In addition, for a while, Fring and Nimbuzz clients could be used with Skype accounts, which would have helped for phones where no Skype client was in offer, but these agreements have been ended, with stated reasons which seem to imply differences of opinion or interest between the companies. Given that things seem to be changing every few months, and it was fairly difficult to find some of these things anyway - I can remember ambiguities between what 3 and Skype were saying, and links from one's website to the other and a dead page at the other end (or different 3/Skype versions on different phones handling for instance caller ID differently) - it's no wonder it's a bit tricky to keep up with what is going on with all of this ......... so maybe SIP is easier. Last edited by andy; 06-03-2011 at 17:00..

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Stu (Offline) Senior Member Prepaid Guru Posts: 1,091 Join Date: 11 Feb 2004 Location: Detroit (formerly Dubai) Country:	06-03-2011, 18:48 True VOIP on a Blackberry used to be an impossibility and is just starting to be rolled out. My wife has a Torch and I've been playing with it on that phone. It is getting close on wifi, but I haven't been happy over 3g. Conversely, my iPhone works like a champ over 3g. I presume Androids are just as good. As we get duo-core phones, it will only get better.