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[dg7feq]

Originally Posted by NFH

£0.0495 for outgoing SMS...

Have a look at Toggle's prices for roaming in Norway for example. It publishes a price of 7p for sending SMS, which breaches the price cap by 41%.

current rate for norway:

Making calls 0.18£/min
Local calls 0.18£/min
Receiving calls 0.04£/min
Send SMS 0.05£/SMS
Data 0.67£/MB

Seems they changed some parts yesterday.

I never looked at the "outside toggle" rates before as i only use the card in toggle countries...

[peterdoo]

Well, the data rate of £0.67 is really far over the EU cap of £0.1652/MB. Four times higher !

The SMS sent in Toggle countries are listed with 0.07 £/SMS. Over the EU cap as well. Or making calls in the EU member country Croatia: £0.28/min.

On the outgoing calls from Toggle countries which still have good pricing, unfortunatelly more and more often the call is delivered without a caller number to the destination (EU mobile or fixed). This makes me impossible to reach many people that have a line configured in a way that does not accept anonymous calls.

At the end of the day the only advantage that remains for me is the additional number in Toggle countries. As caused by the other problems this has not removed the need for using a second SIM, I am considering returning to the usual double-SIM operation without Toggle.

As ChrisNeedsToKnow mentioned often, Toggle is a good idea, however with too many practical limitations that have not been solved over the time and will probably make it unusable at the end.

[bourbonkiller]

I've just checked for rates when going to Spain later this month and found out, that Toggle has launched (finally) roaming packages for their Toggle countries!

http://www.togglemobile.co.uk/roaming-data/en

1GB for GBP 20
2GB for GBP 30
3GB for GBP 40

This (if it works) is a very good reason to stay with Toggle!

[dg7feq]

thats nice! Especially when the package is for all toggle countries - so activated once and use in germany, france, switzerland, ... etc.

[bourbonkiller]

It is so typical Toggle. If there is light, there is also (minimum one) shadow. Just wrote a review about the SIM for the austrian UMTS-Link Forum and wanted to list the countries with free incoming calls. Guess what - they are gone from the website.

It seems that there is a new Data-Package valid for all Toggle Countries, but free incoming calls in those 20+ countrys are no more.

As it looks like, they have changed tariff's when I posted it 10 days (or so) ago and took away the "free incoming calls Banner" now.

Personally, to me this is still a "good trade in" since I've been rarely outside any Toggle Mobile countries. Let's hope they add more countries soon...

BK

[dg7feq]

some of the free incoming contries vanished, some are still existing in the rate calculator (e.g. USA, India, Australia, ...)

[MBK]

@bourbonkiller thanks for the heads up.

Originally Posted by dg7feq

some of the free incoming contries vanished, some are still existing in the rate calculator (e.g. USA, India, Australia, ...)

... Switzerland is still free too.

So, does this leaves us with the 13 Toggle countries with free incoming calls if you have the local number (and free in some like USA, Switzerland, Australia, UK,... even without the added local number).

India seems to be the only non Toggle country with free incoming. This means we now have 14 free incoming countries instead of 20+ (?).

[bourbonkiller]

I've been aware of India but haven't checked the others mentioned since these are Toggle Countries and incoming should always be free.

I've bought two Toggle UK simcards this spring and on these, all toggle countries are already "activated" but no incoming number. Seems that the Sim know how to register on the network but has no active mobile number.

With that in mind it is clear to me, that incoming calls in toggle countries are free of charge...

BK

[peterdoo]

Originally Posted by bourbonkiller

http://www.togglemobile.co.uk/roaming-data/en

1GB for GBP 20
2GB for GBP 30
3GB for GBP 40

This (if it works) is a very good reason to stay with Toggle!

For US and Australia this might be a good offer. However for the EU it is a great disappointment. With the spanish Orange SIM Mundo, I can get 100 MB/day @ 1 EUR. This is 1 GB at 10 EUR or 3GB within 30 days at 30 EUR only. In all EU countries except Spain. Toggle rates of 0,67 GBP/MB in the EU are abusive, far over the EU caps.

[dg7feq]

The difference is that you can use voice, SMS and data on one SIM for a reasonable price within the whole toggle countries now. This is convenient even if you might have some cheaper option by picking a few more SIM cards.