Toggle Mobile

[bourbonkiller]

Originally Posted by dg7feq

where did you find this rate sheet?

Just follow this link: http://www.togglemobile.co.uk/tariffs/en and then use the second part (non toggle countries)

[MBK]

Does this mean that without a local number it's 4p and free with a local number?

[dg7feq]

thats nice! Especially when the package is for all toggle countries - so activated once and use in germany, france, switzerland, ... etc.

[bourbonkiller]

It is so typical Toggle. If there is light, there is also (minimum one) shadow. Just wrote a review about the SIM for the austrian UMTS-Link Forum and wanted to list the countries with free incoming calls. Guess what - they are gone from the website.

It seems that there is a new Data-Package valid for all Toggle Countries, but free incoming calls in those 20+ countrys are no more.

As it looks like, they have changed tariff's when I posted it 10 days (or so) ago and took away the "free incoming calls Banner" now.

Personally, to me this is still a "good trade in" since I've been rarely outside any Toggle Mobile countries. Let's hope they add more countries soon...

BK

[dg7feq]

some of the free incoming contries vanished, some are still existing in the rate calculator (e.g. USA, India, Australia, ...)

[MBK]

@bourbonkiller thanks for the heads up.

Originally Posted by dg7feq

some of the free incoming contries vanished, some are still existing in the rate calculator (e.g. USA, India, Australia, ...)

... Switzerland is still free too.

So, does this leaves us with the 13 Toggle countries with free incoming calls if you have the local number (and free in some like USA, Switzerland, Australia, UK,... even without the added local number).

India seems to be the only non Toggle country with free incoming. This means we now have 14 free incoming countries instead of 20+ (?).

[bourbonkiller]

I've been aware of India but haven't checked the others mentioned since these are Toggle Countries and incoming should always be free.

I've bought two Toggle UK simcards this spring and on these, all toggle countries are already "activated" but no incoming number. Seems that the Sim know how to register on the network but has no active mobile number.

With that in mind it is clear to me, that incoming calls in toggle countries are free of charge...

BK

[dg7feq]

The difference is that you can use voice, SMS and data on one SIM for a reasonable price within the whole toggle countries now. This is convenient even if you might have some cheaper option by picking a few more SIM cards.

[bourbonkiller]

@peterdoo, calling the data roaming packages disappointing is far from normal. I have a business contract in Austria for my mobile and they charge me EUR 50 for 1 GB roaming data. When I leave my house and walk down the road for 200m to cross the Swiss boarder, the cheapest offer for 1 GB domestic data (not roaming) is around CHF 15 (12 Euros).

I live in Austria, do Business in Switzerland and Germany so I have two phones (AT & CH) always with me and when I go to Germany, I have a prepaid card too for cheap calls and data.

All this comes to an end now, because I only need one Simcard for all of that. I would rather call that sensational!

[peterdoo]

I do not know, whether you have tested Toggle already. As far as I understand, Toggle still charges 840 EUR per 1 GB data in Austria (0,67GBP/MB verifyed by me in june 2014). Data roaming packages do not apply to Austria. If you plan to use Toggle SIM only, you might soon change your mind

If you read reports from ChrisNeedsToKnow, who seems to often use it in the countries you mention, you will see that with the Toggle SIM a change between the countries is not always as smooth as one would expect. Also, having many identities on the SIM means that in the case of bad coverage, the phone has to circle through all of them, causing longer intervals without network coverage than using a normal SIM.

As I mentioned below, in the last months more and more often the call from a Toggle country is delivered without a caller number to the destination (EU mobile or fixed) and with a reduced voice quality (delay, noise, echo). This makes me impossible to reach many people that have a line configured in a way that does not accept anonymous calls. Due to the lower quality it takes longer to finish the discussions. Unfortunatelly the move towards a lower quality seems to be coming with the lower tariffs. I noticed it sometimes with Alditalk (4s delay).

And finally, all calls/SMS, it does not matter from which country, are delivered presenting the UK number to the destination. Many friends business partners hate me for that. Some of them returned me a call to that number instead of using my local Toggle number from their phone directory without thinking about it being an international call which does not enter into their monthly allowance. Extremelly high bills have been received on their end at the end of the month.

For somebody really only needing Toggle countries and taking precautions to avoid the possible problems mentioned, it still is a good offer. In my case of being in the Toggle countries mostly, but traveling also to non-Toggle countries (Austria, Italy,...) various days in a month, it simply makes more sense to use Alditalk DE, Orange ES or vodafone IT for data roaming.