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Default 29-05-2013, 12:42

According to Andy's report forwardings within the UK seem not to be affected by the blocking.
Do you actually see the original caller's number when you receive a forwarded call on your toggle SIM? If not Flextel perhaps doesn't even submit FSN/FIB information which would allow toggle to block your forwarded calls.


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Default 29-05-2013, 12:45

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Do you actually see the original caller's number when you receive a forwarded call on your toggle SIM?
Yes, I called from my Orange UK number.
   
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Yes, I called from my Orange UK number.
now, the account login page displays:
Please remember that you MUST register for a local number before you travel to any toggle mobile country.

https://account.togglemobile.co.uk/login.aspx?lang=en

12 countries including UK is on this case.

so it is officially confirmed than roaming is volontary broken in these countries.


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Default 29-05-2013, 14:55

Now if activation of local IMSIs really becomes mandatory for toggle countries what happens if I travel to more than 9 countries within a month? Afaik toggle SIM cards cannot hold more than 9 IMSIs which would leave me without service in the tenth country. Not a very likely scenario anyway.

I wonder what happens if you enter a toggle country without a local IMSI. Couldn't toggle just automatically assign a local IMSI over the air once it discovers a customer roaming in a toggle country using his Roaming IMSI?
If they can't automatize it local IMSIs should at least be available for subscription by USSD or the STK menu, so customers do not need to access the Internet before entering a toggle country but can obtain a local IMSI free of charge from their handset.


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Default 29-05-2013, 15:11

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Now if activation of local IMSIs really becomes mandatory for toggle countries what happens if I travel to more than 9 countries within a month? Afaik toggle SIM cards cannot hold more than 9 IMSIs which would leave me without service in the tenth country. Not a very likely scenario anyway.
only truck drivers can be on this case... the most dangerous is you must made changes X hours before your border passage because you can be with no network on the middle of the country... dunno in fact if IMSI changes on the fly can be done on this case. i think not because your are initially unknown/blocked with the IMSI you used before your quick trip.


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Default 9 Countries out of twelve - 29-05-2013, 17:54

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only truck drivers can be on this case...
Looking at the flags on toggle it would seem to be a strange truck drive to visit Australia, Ireland and the UK on one trip. Of course, if you are in the UK, then one of the continental Europe countries needs to be dropped. Spain? Poland? I suspect this issue will arise when Toggle gets more countries!
   
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Default 29-05-2013, 19:36

When I signed up to Toggle earlier in the year, the helpline lady told me that they can enable/disable IMSIs from their console position on request. Takes a couple of hours...

This suggests our mythical airline pilot (?) or truck driver could travel to more than nine countries in a 30-day period and still get service.

I'd imagine he'd also be a candidate for Toggle's promotion of customer of the year!

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Default 30-05-2013, 10:13

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Looking at the flags on toggle it would seem to be a strange truck drive to visit Australia, Ireland and the UK on one trip. Of course, if you are in the UK, then one of the continental Europe countries needs to be dropped. Spain? Poland? I suspect this issue will arise when Toggle gets more countries!
of course it is a kind of joke...


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Default 29-05-2013, 15:21

Of course when you enter a toggle country without a local IMSI the STK application would need to switch back to the Roaming IMSI in order to automaticaly request and receive a local IMSI. The Roaming IMSI in turn would be restricted to USSD while all calls remain blocked (should be easy to implement with CAMEL). Actually an automatic STK-based IMSI selection process is already in use today.


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Of course when you enter a toggle country without a local IMSI the STK application would need to switch back to the Roaming IMSI in order to automaticaly request and receive a local IMSI. The Roaming IMSI in turn would be restricted to USSD while all calls remain blocked (should be easy to implement with CAMEL). Actually an automatic STK-based IMSI selection process is already in use today.
too technical for me my case to do not have any network if ppl activate a toggle country from 1km of the border and move in less than 2 hours to the middle of the next country is possible ?


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