telna Mobile [split thread] - Page 3

inquisitor · 06-05-2009, 21:31

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Originally Posted by hkr

As for me, I do not really need SMS, but a nice feature would be to be able to send SMS as if they would come from my main home number. Receiving SMS is free in most countries I visit, so I would be able to send SMS from one card, and receive SMS on another.

What I would appreciate is SMS delivery by eMail or web and SMS forwarding. As I discussed recently with a GSM specialist, it should be possible to modify the HLR, so all SMS (including those from third-party networks) would be first delivered to some SMS-proxy. Depending on user preferences that SMS-proxy would then

deliver messages to the phone and/or
forward messages to another number (subject to charge) and/or
forward message to an eMail address and
show all sent and incoming messages on the web.

That would be a very innovative and convinient service, that would open a lot of new possibilites.

Another innovative service would be call delivery including parallel call by SIP, as Austria's A1 (A1 over IP) and Germany's solomo offer. So users could also receive calls for free if received by VoIP (VoIP and GSM would ring simultaneously). That of course will decrease your revenue at first sight, but users would of course use that VoIP-account also for their outgoing calls, which would bypass Israel and so a higher margin could be left for you.

telnamobile · 06-05-2009, 21:47

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Originally Posted by inquisitor

What I would appreciate is SMS delivery by eMail or web and SMS forwarding. As I discussed recently with a GSM specialist, it should be possible to modify the HLR, so all SMS (including those from third-party networks) would be first delivered to some SMS-proxy. Depending on user preferences that SMS-proxy would then

deliver messages to the phone and/or
forward messages to another number (subject to charge) and/or
forward message to an eMail address and
show all sent and incoming messages on the web.

That would be a very innovative and convinient service, that would open a lot of new possibilites.

Those are actually features we intend to provide once we have the SMS feature with our service. We were going to store all incoming text messages in a mailbox on our website and then you would have the choice to let them go to your telna Mobile phone or forwarded via email or both. We could also store outgoing messages.

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Originally Posted by inquisitor

Another innovative service would be call delivery including parallel call by SIP, as Austria's A1 (A1 over IP) and Germany's solomo offer. So users could also receive calls for free if received by VoIP (VoIP and GSM would ring simultaneously). That of course will decrease your revenue at first sight, but users would of course use that VoIP-account also for their outgoing calls, which would bypass Israel and so a higher margin could be left for you.

This makes sense, but that requires we develop a whole new product. It will be a little bit later as we have to do things in order.

DRNewcomb · 06-05-2009, 21:59

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Originally Posted by inquisitor

Another innovative service would be call delivery including parallel call by SIP, ... So users could also receive calls for free if received by VoIP (VoIP and GSM would ring simultaneously). That of course will decrease your revenue at first sight, but users would of course use that VoIP-account also for their outgoing calls, which would bypass Israel and so a higher margin could be left for you.

What it looks like we are building here is a combination of features from Google Voice, Truphone, Gizmo and an international SIM. Google Voice has a virtual SMS number which forwards SMS to a US cell phone. It also has online voicemail. Truphone forwards calls to VOIP or mobile based on if the VOIP is connected or not. Gizmo provides VOIP connections to all sorts of places. I've often wished I could get them to work with each other better.

VladS · 06-05-2009, 22:14

TelnaMobile looks like a pretty promissing service, but I for one will pass as for all international customers they ask for a copy of the national ID.

Just like I wouldn't give service providers my SSN (or canadian SIN), I don't distribute copies of my ID(s).

DRNewcomb · 06-05-2009, 20:29

SIP would be very handy indeed. I could be called directly from a PC or even smartphone at any WiFi hotspot. It would also be handy to have options to call voicemail via SIP and/or receive voicemail as an attachment to an e-mail. The latter was a feature of Celtrek's initial offering which I used frequently, as I would travel out of cellular service for long periods of time but still have good e-mail access. I could receive my voicemails and then either e-mail the caller back or return the call via satellite phone.

telnamobile · 06-05-2009, 21:54

Good news. The VOIP interface for inbound calls has been added.

Since this is kind of an advanced-feature, we put it in our "developers" box where we will add all the special features that don't really make sense for "basic" customers, but make a lot of sense for the tech specialists.

telna Mobile - Low cost cellular service for international travelers(reduced roaming for inbound and outbound calls while abroad)

inquisitor · 06-05-2009, 22:15

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Originally Posted by telnamobile

Good news. The VOIP interface for inbound calls has been added.

I'm impressed!

Grampa · 06-05-2009, 23:34

Does this service support forwarding of the Telna number, and if so, at what cost? For example, I might like to forward the number to my land line or cell when I'm not traveling.

DRNewcomb · 07-05-2009, 01:44

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Originally Posted by Grampa

Does this service support forwarding of the Telna number, and if so, at what cost? For example, I might like to forward the number to my land line or cell when I'm not traveling.

Here's a list of what would probably make an ideal offering:
1. Reasonable rates in many countries. We already have Mobal, which has great coverage but whose rates are not very reasonable. So, any offering needs to be reasonable.
2. Voicemail which does not involve multiple international diverts which run the cost up. This is a failing of many traditional carriers.
3. Flexible configuration. The customer should be able to forward incoming calls to other destinations: international numbers or VOIP numbers. (See #1) It should be possible to set up filters for incoming calls if you want. Some can ring through, some go right to VM and some can be told your not in service. Voicemail might allow for a secret PIN which will bypass the filters. So, if it's 2:00 AM in India and I have set the phone to "Do not disturb" (See #10) but my boss or wife has an emergency, he/she can use the PIN to make the phone ring anyway.
4. Can be called via a SIP address to allow forwarding from home PBXs and maybe even being called via SIPBroker access numbers.
5. Voicemail can be: 1) accessed by phone, SIP, or web or 2) forwarded as an e-mail attachment.
6. Can be set to either ring a SIP number and the mobile phone at the same time or if the VOIP is connected to just ring VOIP. Many customers really like to use their home cellular carrier's VOIP adjunct when traveling (e.g. T-Mobile H@H). This is a similar situation.
7. A good selection of DID numbers. At least one POP in each State would be nice. One in each area code would be ideal.
8. SMS forwarding to other cells or even to e-mail would be nice.
9. GPRS (See #1)
10. A cool little Java applet for your smartphone that allows you to do most of the configuration functions securely via GPRS or WiFi using a minimum of data traffic.

Any other suggestions?

telnamobile · 07-05-2009, 02:38

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