Callkey Latest/Is there hope? [merged threads]

[easyroam-]

31/10/2007

At around 7pm. Callkey servers went offline for both end users "customers" and for distributors.
No information has been released by callkey about resumption of service or who if any has or will take over the network (callkey)



www.easyroam.co.uk

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by easyroam-

31/11/2007

At around 7pm. Callkey servers went offline for both end users "customers" and for distributors.
No information has been released by callkey about resumption of service or who if any has or will take over the network (callkey)



www.easyroam.co.uk

I think you mean 31/10 since there's no such a date as 31/11.
Anyway, it was a nice disaster - I suppose that much more customers were affected than in case of the Buytel collapse....

[Bossman]

Yep! A nice disaster indeed. Some of the resellers such as freeglobalsim are totally offline. And, they refuse to respond to customers questions.

[MATHA531]

Let's call it like it is....

Callkiey is dead....the sim cards issued by the resellers with the Isle of Man numbers provided by callkey are dead and there is no chance of resusitation. The only question left is how many will get their credit back in some form or another.

One large disaster all around.

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by MATHA531

Let's call it like it is....

Callkiey is dead....the sim cards issued by the resellers with the Isle of Man numbers provided by callkey are dead and there is no chance of resusitation. The only question left is how many will get their credit back in some form or another.

One large disaster all around.

The current status of the Manx international SIM stuff makes me think that Callkey didn't pay what they should to Manx Telecom. Otherwise, if the whole business had been profitable to Manx Telecom, they would probably have offered some replacement service - the loss of a few thousands customers who bring profits would be noticeable for a company operating on the market so tiny as IoM.

BTW, I wonder why CallBlue and Yackie abandoned Manx sims before they stopped working - they knew something before or just "more luck than reason"

[RTuesday]

Originally Posted by Przemolog

The current status of the Manx international SIM stuff makes me think that Callkey didn't pay what they should to Manx Telecom. Otherwise, if the whole business had been profitable to Manx Telecom, they would probably have offered some replacement service - the loss of a few thousands customers who bring profits would be noticeable for a company operating on the market so tiny as IoM.

Could even be the other way round - I assume MT collected the termination fees, then passed part of them on to Callkey (maybe there were delays/disputes/fraud allegations there). AFAIK Callkey just subcontracted a number range, didn't use MT switching etc, so there's really nothing for MT to replace it with.

And since MT is part of O2 who are part of Telefonica Spain they're not the sort of comany that would want to get involved with callback, or even miss the revenue (which they may have had very little of). Looks like the Manx sims are permanently dead.

[prion]

Originally Posted by RTuesday

Could even be the other way round - I assume MT collected the termination fees, then passed part of them on to Callkey (maybe there were delays/disputes/fraud allegations there). AFAIK Callkey just subcontracted a number range, didn't use MT switching etc, so there's really nothing for MT to replace it with.

And since MT is part of O2 who are part of Telefonica Spain they're not the sort of comany that would want to get involved with callback, or even miss the revenue (which they may have had very little of). Looks like the Manx sims are permanently dead.

One Manx distributor is sending manx sims as replacements for the older ones that do no longer work. So I suppose this does not mean that all manx sism have ceased service

[Przemolog]

Originally Posted by RTuesday

Could even be the other way round - I assume MT collected the termination fees, then passed part of them on to Callkey (maybe there were delays/disputes/fraud allegations there).

OK with termination, but what about outgoing calls? Because callback was used, both "legs" are in fact outgoing calls from the operator to the both parties of the call. Since MT roaming agreements were in use, I suppose that Callkey

Originally Posted by RTuesday

AFAIK Callkey just subcontracted a number range, didn't use MT switching etc, so there's really nothing for MT to replace it with.

It's not only about the number range. As I've mentioned above, Callkey used also MT roaming agreements what means some kind of switching, too (but I have no telecom education so may be wrong)

Originally Posted by RTuesday

And since MT is part of O2 who are part of Telefonica Spain they're not the sort of comany that would want to get involved with callback, or even miss the revenue (which they may have had very little of). Looks like the Manx sims are permanently dead.

Yes, I realise that MT is a part of much larger business nowadays. But, nevertheless, they have to care about the revenues on the island, not to count on "MT size" doesn't matter within the O2 group

[Stu]

I've already written my money off. I've lost about US$75 in credit. Whle I don't like losing money, I consider it one of the risks I assume in playing in what is a fringe market.

[bbob]

Prions what manx distributor are you talking about.