Germany - Ortel Mobile vs Fonic

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Hello to everybody...

I'm new in this forum but an old member of the "windworld.org" ones...

By the way, I'm moving to germany pretty soon, i had a look at the offers (I have already an ortel mobile de sim card) to find an operator cheap to call Italy from Germany as well as not so expensive in the in-country calls and so on...

from the web site of Fonic
FONIC Handytarif im Überblick - Günstig mobil telefonieren!

it seems cheaper that the ortel
Ortel Mobile - Connecting the world

but I dont find any start-call costs...did I miss something?
maybe some german friend can help me?

thanks a lot!
Carlo