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Default 15-06-2006, 19:01

I see that the EU pressure on carriers has forced some lowering of cross-border roaming rates. Can't remember the costs, now, $1US a min?
U.S. carriers (Cingular and T-Mobile charge $1/min for incoming and outgoing (both local and back to U.S.) in most lst world countries.

I raise this point because some of us still have T-Mobile old (til 3 years ago) rates where incoming calls in many countries are 29?! (Outgoing varies by time and carrier within each country.) This is cheaper than roaming using these intl. cards like UM - and, obviously much more solid. It would still pay to use UM, Yackie, etc. for outgoing calls.

I know DR Newcomb here has these old rates, and I think Stu used to.

Point is, if T-M can make money off me by charging 29?, then there would be a lot of room for the carriers themselves to cut roaming rates - thus taking away the need to use someone like UM and others.

These intl. cards more than compete in 2nd and 3rd tier countries where even under the old rates it costs me a lot. Much of my use is not in lst world countries.

BTW, T-M now charges $5/min. to roam in Israel! Cingular is charging 1/2 that - $2 to $2.50/min. T-M has raised their rates from $3 just in the last few months when i last looked. At least until a few months ago, Israel was still a 29? country for me.
Yackie will be charging 24? according to their web site.

CONCLUSION: Roaming rates charged by the carriers bear no relationship to what it costs them. They obviously have graphs that figure what the customer will pay before they look for alternatives.

...mike


Make use of T-M's UMA/wifi free calling from any place in the world with access to wifi. I use an LG G6, wife an S7)
A/o Oct 20, 2013 no need for intl prepaid as T-Mobile U.S. includes voice roaming at 20¢/min (in and out)., unlimited text (in and out), and unlimited data in 140+ countries.

My Plan -[6 lines] U.S. T-Mobile unlimited minutes (incoming and outgoing), unlimited text, fast data on each line. that $145/mo. total! . (In U.S. no surcharge for calling a cell.) If a line exceeds 2G of data in a month, pay $10 more for that line. [That only happens a couple times/year.
   
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