[Stu]

I like Fring and think it is a good discussion. There is a discussion going, however, at Whirlpool.net.au about someone who thinks that his credentials were stolen from Fring. I didn't see much evidence of the assessment, but am passing it on for whatever it is worth.

With respect to Israeli security, if I were going to ethnically stereotype on security or technology, Israel would score a ton of points. Treatment of refugees or who has a better to land doesn't factor into this equation.

It is like talking technology in Singapore. They have a great infrastructure and good technology. The death penalty for marijuana or suppression of free speech is topic for a different forum.