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mmthomas 01-05-2006 15:30

The website www.zen.ee does not seem to have the free roaming in baltics and finland discussed in this site description of the Elisa Zen product.

Has there been a change? Or is this free roaming an undocumented feature?

Effendi 01-05-2006 18:12

I used Zen in 2004 (it was Radiolinja at that time) in Estonia and Finland with "free roaming" in Finland, so I can assure that it worked.
I don't understand Estonian and just a little bit of Russian, but looking at their site now it seems it doesn't exist anymore... it sends you to Elisa's roaming page, and for Finland it should be THIS ONE.

Anyway let's wait for our Russian expert Asick to confirm! :D

Asick 03-05-2006 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Effendi
Anyway let's wait for our Russian expert Asick to confirm! :D

What shoud I confirm? There's nothing free but the connection fee at the link that you wrote. :)

Przemolog 03-05-2006 10:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asick
What shoud I confirm? There's nothing free but the connection fee at the link that you wrote. :)

By "connection fee" you mean this, per minute rate (in Estonian crowns):
Прием звонка 5,55 5,55
?

No hope for free incoming calls in Finland with this SIM anyway :(

Asick 03-05-2006 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
By "connection fee" you mean this, per minute rate (in Estonian crowns):
Прием звонка 5,55 5,55
?

No. Connection fee means connection fee. Плата за соединение, which is 100% the same in Russian. Прием звонка, as I get it, it's their tariff for incoming calls. Their terms are not perfectly correct and are misleading, but this is how I get it as a Russian.

Effendi 03-05-2006 11:37

Yes, that page looks clear, but if you have time to take a look at ZEN site, maybe we can just confirm it or not. I'm sure in 2004 it was free, but it's possible that they changed :(

Asick 03-05-2006 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Effendi
Yes, that page looks clear, but if you have time to take a look at ZEN site, maybe we can just confirm it or not. I'm sure in 2004 it was free, but it's possible that they changed :(

I've found nothing there. I mean nothing about the free roaming service anywhere. :(

Przemolog 03-05-2006 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asick
No. Connection fee means connection fee. Плата за соединение, which is 100% the same in Russian. Прием звонка, as I get it, it's their tariff for incoming calls. Their terms are not perfectly correct and are misleading, but this is how I get it as a Russian.

:poster_oops: I don't know why I didn't notice "Плата за соединение" :).
And as to misleading terms, "Прием звонка" sounds to me as a "single action" for which a "single fee" (i.e. per call, not per minute) should be assigned :unsure:

Asick 04-05-2006 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
And as to misleading terms, "Прием звонка" sounds to me as a "single action" for which a "single fee" (i.e. per call, not per minute) should be assigned :unsure:

Yes, this is quite misleading. However, look, they count it in crowns/min, so it can't be just a 'single action'. :) Прием звонка can be considered as a continuous action too, it's like прием пищи (пища means food), which means the whole eating process since the start till the end. :D Anyway, this term in the modern 'cellular Russian' is VERY strange. This is always входящие звонки (incoming calls) and плата за входящие звонки, and nothing more. :) I guess it was may be an Estonian writer who had Russian as second language or just a sort of local Estonian dialect in Russian. :)

mmthomas 09-08-2006 20:27

I purchased ZEN in July 2006. I did not activate international roaming, which costs as much as the initial purchase price of the SIM.

I could make calls in Estonia and Latvia to each other. I could not call lithuania from latvia. No calls in finland.

I could not use it in other countries for SMS. Specificaly Finland, Sweden, Denmark and Norway. Not working in USA.

The start package came with a brochure including english instructions; even if english is not on the website.


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