new MNVO "Telesim" (one new every day now or what?
 

A new MNVO on Vistream started today.

They charge 13.5 ct/min in all german networks -- with 3 minutes billing increment :eek:

The international roaming tariffs are nearly similar to che-mobil and sunsim.

here is the complete price list:

http://www.telesim.de/docs/preisblatt_national.pdf

Chris

Re: new MNVO "Telesim" (one new every day now or w
 

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I hope that they can be the only one network with this system for a long time...

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yes, totally shocking. reminds me of some landline providers who charge 5 minute increments here. totally useless in my opinion.

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Hey, not quite! Billing increments are not so important by themselves. Only increment/minute rate combination really matters. You don't like telesim because you would have to pay the multiple of 40.5 cents for any call. But if the rate were 1 cents/min even 10 minute increments wouldn't be that bad. OTOH even 1 second increments with very high rates may not be so good, e.g. calls to satphones in Hop cost $6/min what means as much as $0.10/sec.
I think that the honest solution is only when each increment cost the lowest (or at most the next one) nominal of the currency of the billing.

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Yes, you are right.
In theory you of course will call a destination with 1.5ct/min minute increment than with 5ct/min second increment billing...

But in reality the 5-minute increment billing companies only charge approx 0.1 ct/min or 0.5ct/min less on their tariff than the others (at least here in germany) -- just to be placed at number one in the tariff charts from the "call by call" lists. Or they tend to swap between 1 and 5 minute increments every 2 weeks or so. This behaviour is just to gain maximum profit and nothing else.

Chris

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The problem is that there's no good measure (and I'm not quite sure if it may exist at all) of comparison of any two tariffs. Per minute rate is a part of the deal only - increments, setup fee or minimal fee are the other ones.

And as to making max profits - that is what all the companies should make. The problem is when they can make profits even with bad reputation and acting "on the edge of legality" :(