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BBB 25-04-2006 13:36

Is it just me or have they just hiked all their prices up. The website price chart has changed to a new look as well. Anyone know whathas happened - or why?

andy 25-04-2006 22:08

I don't know, but I'll put this info

The other day I read a prediction on another forum that 0044 tariffs would be increased to the same as Simazing

Simazing is registered by one of the directors of CallKey/GlobalCalling, so I assumed it to be their own retail arm.

I phoned 0044 and a had a chat about this, which I've done before. He didn't appear to have heard of Simazing or seen their tariffs, but said that any tariff changes coming from CallKey would be passed on.

The tariff chart there now is new; not there the other day. But at the bottom, it mentions contacting Simazing rather than 0044. So maybe this is an error by CallKey/Global in pulling up the wrong tariff for 0044 accounts?

All calls I made yesterday are charged at the old tariff, which is still listed in my account.

As many questions as answers I think, like will the trebling of tariff be applied to mine in future, and will all dealers have the same tariff plans in future, which doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. Some more phone calls soon I think.


meir 28-04-2006 13:41

I was in touch this morning with Ed Neal from Geodesa. He clearly wrote me that they have just changed the cost of SMS. Otherwise all other charges stay the same. Also all free incoming roaming destinations should remain unchanged.

andy 28-04-2006 14:01

CallKey told me that the charges are up to individual dealers.

I contacted 0044 for clarification. Future 0044 sales will be of SIMs with the new tariff, which is the same as Simazing. And a bit later I have an email from 0044 that CK say the old call charges will continue on the earlier supplied ones.

On sms charges, they weren't being charged at all, but now appear at $0.29


Przemolog 28-04-2006 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy
CallKey told me that the charges are up to individual dealers.

I contacted 0044 for clarification. Future 0044 sales will be of SIMs with the new tariff, which is the same as Simazing. And a bit later I have an email from 0044 that CK say the old call charges will continue on the earlier supplied ones.

On sms charges, they weren't being charged at all, but now appear at $0.29

I must say that I don't like the mess with all the "versions" of CallKey SIMs. OK, that's great that dealers can set their own tariffs or offer both prepaid and postpaid products. But now I'm not even sure where those SIMs work - each dealer has its own roaming list. E.g. Ukraine is "under test" in Geodesa, available in 0044 and Simazing, and not available in GT-sim.
And Callblue http://www.callblue.com/website/Rate-Calculator.html : "Select the country you are calling from: " list contains 214 countries and territories! What does this mean??? OK, they added the clause:

Find the rate to and from your country*. It is dependant on the type of GSM package you have chosen to use.

Simply choose your package, the country you are calling from and the destination you are calling.

* NOTE: The service is based on availability outlined in the Coverage List

and http://www.callblue.com/website/Coverage.html is quite usual as for Manx SIMs :)

Przemolog 23-05-2006 23:19

http://www.callblue.com/0044 - this a current calculator for 0044 (it opens from the 0044.co.uk website). It seems that they have the common tariff with Callblue now :unsure:

meir 23-05-2006 23:41

Looks a bit better now. Is there any set-up fee for calls made?

andy 24-05-2006 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
http://www.callblue.com/0044 - this a current calculator for 0044 (it opens from the 0044.co.uk website). It seems that they have the common tariff with Callblue now :unsure:

hmmm, the plot thickens - I wonder why they have switched from CallKey to Callblue

prion 24-05-2006 05:29

I suppose now they charge per minute, not 6 seconds ........

Przemolog 24-05-2006 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy
hmmm, the plot thickens - I wonder why they have switched from CallKey to Callblue

What do you mean by "switched from CallKey to Callblue". Isn't Callkey a company which is a "wholesaler" to all the "Manx" SIMs? Or, there are (at least) two companies which use Manx Pronto roaming agreements???

andy 24-05-2006 10:49

Most of the rebrands and agents we've seen are affiliated to CallKey, but Callblue is separate

Przemolog 24-05-2006 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy
Most of the rebrands and agents we've seen are affiliated to CallKey, but Callblue is separate

However, both Callblue and Callkey use the same triggering technology, what results in the same handset compatibility issues, right?

BBB 29-05-2006 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Przemolog
http://www.callblue.com/0044 - this a current calculator for 0044 (it opens from the 0044.co.uk website). It seems that they have the common tariff with Callblue now :unsure:

Now I'm even more confused. 0044 site now seems to have two tariffs - one for cards bought before 1 May - and the callblue for those after 1 May.

Quote:

On 25 April, Andy said: "All calls I made yesterday are charged at the old tariff, which is still listed in my account."
Is this still the case or are they now being charged at the pre 1 May rate

Are we saying there are now three 0044 tariffs?

If the original tariff still exists - are the prices anywhere or is it all hit or miss.

May have to email 0044 for clarification but though might get the answer here.
Is there anyway of seeing account details without having to put an additional $50 credit on?

Oh and the irony of: "Tariff rates will occasionally change. Thankfully this is a rare occurrence and more often than not the prices actually decrease."

All I can see is three lots of increases in as many months

Ian

PS the 0044 SIM roamed well in Portugal last week even in (seemingly) very remote places.


Stu 29-05-2006 18:36

What is involved in becoming a dealer. What kind of volume are they looking at. What is the possibility of a cooperative. I work with a ton of British ex pats who are on the road all the time. I could probably bring in fifteen to twenty high minute customers or more.

Could we create some sort of a cooperative and control our own roaming plan. I like the plans generally, but would like to add some countries to the roaming list at any incoming rate. Many aspects from different IOM plans are also appealing. What is the possibiity of a PPGSM Cooperative Prepaid?

Przemolog 29-05-2006 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu
Could we create some sort of a cooperative and control our own roaming plan. I like the plans generally, but would like to add some countries to the roaming list at any incoming rate.

I am afraid that MVNO dealers are not able to add any country to the roaming list by themselves - it's up to the real operator. All they can do is to suggest....

meir 29-05-2006 22:37

I agree it is up-to mobile operator to sign roaming agreements.

Stu 30-05-2006 03:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu
What is involved in becoming a dealer. What kind of volume are they looking at. What is the possibility of a cooperative. I work with a ton of British ex pats who are on the road all the time. I could probably bring in fifteen to twenty high minute customers or more.

Could we create some sort of a cooperative and control our own roaming plan. I like the plans generally, but would like to add some countries to the roaming list at any incoming rate. Many aspects from different IOM plans are also appealing. What is the possibiity of a PPGSM Cooperative Prepaid?

Yes, but I'm talking about countries that some of the MVNOs are offering on this SIM.


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