http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-INTERNATIONAL-RO...1QQcmdZViewItem


* COMPLETELY FREE call diversion to UK landlines (01,02,0845/0870)

* COMPLETELY FREE call diversion to mobiles (02/Vodafone/T-Mobile/Orange/3)


FREE call diversion to 48 countries The DM SIM card even comes with 15 Euros of call credit pre-loaded on it! There is no contract or minimum term - just a simple web based payment scheme:

??? :clap:

Form the picture design looks like United Mobile. But no idea about call forwarding. :thumbdown:

I saw that offer also.

Here a reply from the seller to my Ebay questions:

"For rates you need to tell me which country you will be in, and which country you will be calling. Top-ups are by credit-card on the web.

If you buy, you get two numbers with the SIM: GB (+44) (voice and free international call diversion), and FL (+423) (voice, sms and outgoing CLI).

No charge to receive calls on either number."

Voice from BOTH +44 and +423? How does that work? The SIM chooses based on the country of origin -- if in UK then +44, else +423? Only my guess.

Stan

My guess is that they setup a free UK premium rate number and forward it to the UM number. BT K-Rate numbers (such as 070059) can be forwarded pretty much anywhere in the world for free.

Perhaps my knowledge of English has just failed but I don't understand at all what "free premium rate" may mean?
It sounds to me like self-contradiction :D

Good catch!

NO FREE LUNCH. Somebody has to pay for PREMIUM service -- EVENTUALLY! Must be "included" in the rates somewhere? Or when invokes (uses), the PREMIUM service provider is somehow compensated for that usage.

Stan

More details? Are those numbers free for the calling party like 800's? And for the receiving party (like the owner of a UM sim in the case under consideration) too?
So...both parties have to listen to ads during 95% time of each call :lol: or, how is this stuff "financially powered"???

Free to the owner (or, in this case, the sim provider). Very expensive to call (around 35p/min) and usually only reachable from the UK, if it's one of the 0701 "personal rate" numbers.

Good idea in theory, but "free diversion" from one of these UK numbers is only useful to the person being called, the caller pays more than calling a mobile.

Nothing that can't be set up yourself with any international sim and a free (to called!) "personal rate" number from people like Flextel.com. Good marketing though.

Thats correct. I have for ages number from OpenTelecom http://www.open-telecom.co.uk/070_pn2_numbers.html I don't use it, but this morning I have tried if it is still working? It worked and still forwards the call to my Czech mobile phone mumber. They charge 50p/minute, at least this is what they say on the web pages.

OH WELL , i thought it was a monthly subscribtion service... anyways ive asked the seller a couple of Qs myself.. see if he replies

I suspect the previous posters were correct. I used to used my UM +423 sim in combination with an "07010" number from flextel in the UK which allowed forwarding for free to the UM number. The downside of this was outgoing CID was the +423 number (if I made calls from UM) and callers had to pay GBP 0.35/min from a landline 24/7. I have recently stopped using this as people had real problems dialing me from overseas (one was charged over EUR 2.00/min!) and a UK client who called me from his mobile was charged GBP 1.00/min for a 45 min call - this didn't go down too well as he suspected I was getting people to call me on a premium number that paid me commission! Needless to say I lost a sale.

In light of all this I decided to stop using it as it has obvious hidden costs and even sometimes didn't work 100%. I've since switched to a callkey sim which I pay to forward my VOIP landline to. This has "normal" low incoming costs (GBP 0.09/min) and seems to work well. The only downside is my previous setup provided incoming CID perfectly whereas the callkey doesn't but for me this is a minor issue.

could you perhaps elaborate on the voip line? (how to get it , how to set it up etc)


is it vonage ? (or whatever its called :thumbup: )

Hi,

The company I am using is voipfone (www.voipfone.co.uk). I don't know if you've already read it but I've discussed this setup at some length in another thread.

Here's a link:

http://www.prepaidgsm.net/forum/inde...topic=957&st=0

thanks. i read, but not too closely. time to re-read :)